Here is a picture of a 16 Ga. GHE ,real close to the serial # Bruce posted ,Serial # 241685 ! Does the " Shoe Filing " look the same ??? I don' see any difference myself .:corn:

May we presume the one pictured in the book is a .410?

On what page of TPS can we find that picture?

28 Gauge Dean ,TPS Page 722 !

Bill, you must be aware that Remington purchased Parker's parts inventory along with the gun business. In that inventory was an untold number of unnumbered frames. In manufacturing those frames, Parker (not Remington) gradually changed the amount of filing (shoe filing) that they did on the bottom of the frame. The earliest hammerless frames have the "bullet nosed" filing almost touching the trigger plate. As the years went by,less and less metal was removed, to the point where the end of the "bullet nose" was around 3/8" from the trigger plate. The latter was in the latest Parker produced frames in the early 30s. The "parker Story" by Price et al, has a good, detailed section on this. My collection of "Gs" bears this out and allows me to date the subject frame to around 1910.

Bill ,This is interesting to me , are you able to tell by the picture I posted of my GHE Serial #241685 if it is an early Frame or a late frame ,I really haven't seen enough of the Remington Era guns to tell the difference ! If you need different pictures ,I would be happy to post or take others if need be ! Russ

Bill, I agree with you. The pictures by Bruce show the early style shoe filing. I don't know exactly how to describe it but if you look at the bottom of the receiver, on the old style cuts/channel/gouge, what ever you call it, extends almost to the top right and left edge of the floor plate. On the newer frames, the cut is just about to the bottom of the 2 top floor plate screws. It does slight alter the side shape of the receiver but is not as noticeable as the underside of the receiver. According to TPS, this change was a cost saving measure.

If I'm wrong about this, I'm sure you guys will correct me.

Russ, show pictures of the bottom of your receiver.

Sorry Bill, I missed your last post. Looks like we're on the same page with this subject!

Chuck ,here is a of piccture of the bottom of the receiver ! Russ

Russ,

The contours are very close to my 1904 GH but not exactly. My channel continues to slopes till it ends, where yours is parallel for a short distance till it ends.

I wonder if all the Rem Parkers were filed this way?

Now that I've reviewed the picture Bruce posted, his does have the continued slope to the floor plate edge. Maybe the differences have to do with smaller gauges but there is no doubt that channel runs longer and is more like early Parker frames versus the later Parker built frames.