Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums

Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums (https://parkerguns.org/forums/index.php)
-   Parker Restoration (https://parkerguns.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   PH Grade (https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27515)

Bill Jacobs 06-10-2019 04:48 PM

PH Grade
 
Bear with me guys, as I am just trying to learn about Parkers. This gun is my first -- a "PH" grade gun with replacement barrels. The research letter says that the gun was made in 1917 with twist barrels. This gun has Vulcan Steel barrels, so, obviously, they have been replaced. I am curious whether it was a factory job or ??. The gun is a 16 gauge on a "0" frame and feels light as a feather. The barrels are 26" uncut. Chokes are about Skeet and Modified as nearly as I can gauge them. Can you tell anything from the photos who did the replacement barrels? Bill Schwarz resoldered the ribs and did a rust blue job on the barrels for me. He also replaced the "wedge" to get the center lever to rest where it should.

Thanks in advance!

Bill Jacobs


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...df995077_b.jpgPH Grade 16 Ga by jakefromclemson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f9f55d8c_z.jpgPH Top Lever by jakefromclemson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...32affd9e_b.jpgPH Lug Right by jakefromclemson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...be23079f_b.jpgPH Lug Center by jakefromclemson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a12e6173_b.jpgPH Frame by jakefromclemson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3b7bfbe1_b.jpgPH Barrels by jakefromclemson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8331e837_b.jpgPH Recvr Left by jakefromclemson, on Flickr

Mills Morrison 06-10-2019 04:59 PM

Very nice gun. Hopefully, someone with more technical skill than I have can identify who did the barrels. You might send off for a factory letter too

Brian Dudley 06-10-2019 05:17 PM

The barrels are likely NOT factory replacements.

I say this due to two observations. The fit of the dolls head rib extension into the frame would be better than it is if it were a factory job. AND the serial number is stamped on the wrong side of the barrel lug. The factory would not have done that.

It does look to be a very nice gun with a lot of condition left on the frame.

Bill Jacobs 06-10-2019 07:06 PM

Thanks very much for your observations. Bill Schwarz noted the position of the serial number to me as well, Mr. Dudley. Who would have had access to Parker barrels to do the rebarreling work? Did Parker sell them to individual gunsmiths? I know the Vulcan barrels were made in greater numbers than any other Parker barrels.

The questions are academic only, as I intend to hunt with this gun, but I am trying my best to learn a bit of the history of these guns.

Bill Jacobs

Brian Dudley 06-10-2019 07:10 PM

Do you have a clear photo of the other side of the barrel lug?

Bill Jacobs 06-10-2019 07:15 PM

Does this help?

Bill

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...fe610669_h.jpgPH Lug Left by jakefromclemson, on Flickr

Brian Dudley 06-10-2019 07:17 PM

Looks like original number was welded up and stamped on the other side for some reason. Barrels are just from another gun.

Garry L Gordon 06-10-2019 08:23 PM

Nice looking gun. If the barrels fit well and are sound, you have a nice example of one of the finest American made shotguns. I agree that a letter might be helpful, but again, if the gun is sound, all of it is Parker and should serve you well.

Garry L Gordon 06-10-2019 08:26 PM

...oh, yeah, and it's a 16!!! And an O frame!!

Russell E. Cleary 06-11-2019 12:06 AM

Bill:

Being interested in the gun's history, as you have said you are, the first place I'd start would be to seek a PGCA Factory Letter.

I have an 0-grade 16-gauge, and beyond disclosing what physical attributes of the gun are original, the letter tells me what retailer in Boston, Massachusetts it was originally shipped to, from Meriden in 1907.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:05 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Parkerguns.org