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Jeff Elder 08-14-2019 11:24 PM

Question
 
I have a DHE 16 gauge and I'm having a real problems trying to find a bismuth load under 1300 fps in the size shot I'm looking for. My question is can that gun handle the 1300 fps shot? Or is there somewhere I can get some slower if I need? I've already looked at RST but all they have is #6 and I'm looking for #4

Thank you

Jeff

Rick Losey 08-15-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Elder (Post 279226)
I have a DHE 16 gauge and I'm having a real problems trying to find a bismuth load under 1300 fps in the size shot I'm looking for. My question is can that gun handle the 1300 fps shot? Or is there somewhere I can get some slower if I need? I've already looked at RST but all they have is #6 and I'm looking for #4

Thank you

Jeff

no one can answer that without inspecting the gun

and FPS is only one factor, what weight is the shot load - a heavy load or a light one? Pressure? chamber length?

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun has many bismuth loads for 16 at that speed or greater- pressures vary

Jeff Elder 08-15-2019 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 279230)
no one can answer that without inspecting the gun

and FPS is only one factor, what weight is the shot load - a heavy load or a light one? Pressure? chamber length?

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun has many bismuth loads for 16 at that speed or greater- pressures vary


Thank you
It's the Kent 25 count box of one once 2 3/4 bismuth that's just common everywhere. Where could I find the results for the pressure for that load?

My bore was lengthened to shoot 2 3/4

Dean Romig 08-15-2019 09:01 AM

Jeff, what is the barrel wall thickness at the juncture of the chamber and the beginning of the forcing cone? That is by far the most critical place where sufficient wall thickness is an absolute must. As a chamber is lengthened that wall thickness is necessarily diminished.





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Stephen Hodges 08-15-2019 09:05 AM

I would be concerned about the wood also. An old dry stock cannot take much recoil before you may see a crack form. I would say you may want to buy a Mec reloader and load you own.

Jeff Elder 08-15-2019 09:10 AM

Steve I just ordered one the other day. If your stock has been in the hot oil getting bent would that help with the dry wood?

Rick Losey 08-15-2019 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hodges (Post 279233)
I would be concerned about the wood also. An old dry stock cannot take much recoil before you may see a crack form. I would say you may want to buy a Mec reloader and load you own.


i'll repeat my opinion ( again :rolleyes: )

low pressure is for the metal, low recoil is for the wood

Jeff Elder 08-15-2019 09:32 AM

Ok I called Kent and they said the 16 gauge one once 1300 fps load had 9900 pressure. Is that too much?

Rick Losey 08-15-2019 09:50 AM

it still depends on the current condition and remaining specifications of the individual gun

sorry, there is no one size fits all answer

i would only add -

for me - personally - those are a little on the hot side for me with my vintage guns,

i only shoot Kent in a couple heavy built guns (such as a Super Fox, or a 3 frame 12 VH with a reinforced stock ) - and never as a steady diet -

I reload nontox

Milton C Starr 08-15-2019 10:11 AM

Rio sells a #4 bismuth load in 16 ga , its 1 oz @ 1200fps but its a 2 3/4" chamber .
Rio # RBI164


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