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Bill Graham 04-04-2018 02:06 PM

2k Nitro 27 hulls to use
 
Have not been reloading long.

I have a nice recipe with Nitro 27's, 3/4oz of #8, WIN209, Claybuster 0175, and 16.1 of Clay's = 7500psi and 1150fps. These are 2 3/4".

I'm ending up with 2 1/2" chambers and want to trim some of the Nitro 27's for use, and hopefully use as much of what I already have as possible. Plenty of WIN 209's on hand, 4lbs or more of Clays, 0175 and 4100 wads.

Lower pressure, lower recoil, are both important to me. Any suggestions you folks would have on what be done for a 2 1/2" shell with some of what I have?

Jack Kuzepski 04-04-2018 03:22 PM

Just use a "Hartin" crimp on them. Leave your press set up for 2-3/4 the way it usually is. Load the shell just like you would a 2-3/4" shell; after you drop your shot charge seat an overshot card then use your crimp starter station then finish with the final crimp. The overshot card will hold the shot in place. That is the way I do it. Can even write the shot size on the overshot card like the older shells.

Jack Kuzepski

Dean Romig 04-04-2018 03:51 PM

What is a Nitro 27....?






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William Davis 04-04-2018 04:02 PM

From memory Remington 27 yard trap load. Gold hull . I bought two boxes for the hulls , Shot them in my O/U. Butt kicking load.

I found primer seating less than optimal using Win 209s. Never found a good supply of Remington primers to try The Winchester’s seat but have a tendency to leave a high primer in the Remington hull 5 - 10 % High primer in a loaded shell is a problem. Not safe to push in deeper with a loaded shell. AAs have never had this issue. Gave up on the nitro 27s

Anybody have cures let me know. Useful to have some different color hulls to segregate certain loads.

William.

John Campbell 04-04-2018 04:05 PM

Mr. Graham:
If fooling with 2 1/2" shells makes you happy, fine. However, I've fired many thousands of reloaded 2 3/4" cartridges with 3/4 oz. of shot in all my 2 1/2" guns with no ill effects whatsoever. On average, pressures only increase about 50 psi or less. But don't take my word for it. Sherman Bell tested it all for Double Gun Journal years ago and found that it's not worth the worry.

William Davis 04-04-2018 06:00 PM

I don’t cut 2 3/4 inch hulls down for my Parker’s either.

William

Paul Harm 04-05-2018 02:21 PM

Nitro's are like STS"s, both a premium shell with smooth sides, one green and the other gold and with brass bases. As Kensal said there's not really a need to shorten them unless you like 2 1/2" shells. William, I reloaded Nitro's for years with Win and Cheddite primers and never had a problem with primers sticking out. Still have a hundred or so mixed in with my other Remington shells and they all reload the same. Remington 28ga hulls gave me a problem till I ran a drill through the primer hole to remove the plastic. Both 12 and 20 where kind of worry free for primer seating.

Bill Graham 04-05-2018 02:29 PM

I haven’t had primer seating issues either, and am not generally fearful of 2 3/4” in 2 1/2” guns. However, since there are British guns in the mix with 2 1/2” chambers, it might be appropriate to have a 2 1/2” solution available. Probably doesn’t matter there either, but learning new solutions is a good thing.

John Campbell 04-05-2018 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Graham (Post 240116)
...since there are British guns in the mix with 2 1/2” chambers, it might be appropriate to have a 2 1/2” solution available. Probably doesn’t matter there either, but learning new solutions is a good thing.

None of the 26 British guns I have in the gunroom with 2 1/2" chambers seem to mind 2 3/4" cartridges. And haven't for decades.

Chuck Bishop 04-05-2018 08:32 PM

I have problems with all Remington hulls and primers not seating flush no matter the gauge whether using Remington or Winchester primers. These are once fired hulls and using MEC reloaders. After the 1st or 2nd reloads the primers seat flush and yes, the primer seating station is adjusted properly. Never have the same problem with Winchester or Federal hulls.


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