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Craig Larter 09-03-2021 07:25 PM

Not a fine double but an American Classic
 
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I picked up a really clean Remy M-11A circa 1928. 28" full chokes raised solid rib. $56.74 in 1929, unbelievable quality. I wish the side game events at Rock Mountain and the Vintagers allowed pre-WW2 American made autos along with the pump guns events. I would like to acquire a high condition M-11B, D and E.

charlie cleveland 09-03-2021 08:06 PM

the Remington model 11 was a well made gun....looks like were having bacon...charlie

Bruce Hering 09-04-2021 01:05 AM

I have my fathers 20ga. Model 11. (Not the 3 shot sportsman) Its a light, very shootable gun and I have shot a bunch of quail, woodcock and grouse with it. Cyl choke barrel.

I have to agree these guns should be included in the pre WWII shoots.

Bill Murphy 09-04-2021 07:57 AM

My favorite Model 11 is a 20 gauge round top receiver conversion. I don't know who did those conversions, but I suspect Abercrombie and Fitch. I have never seen mention of these guns in old advertising. Maybe someone here has seen an ad for these guns.

Frank Srebro 09-04-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 342709)
[snip] I wish the side game events at Rock Mountain and the Vintagers allowed pre-WW2 American made autos along with the pump guns events.

I like the concept of an event for vintage semi-autos, but not combining it with a vintage pump gun event. On these side events ….. participants pay to shoot against others with similar guns "for score" and bragging rights so-to-speak. Mike gives a +5 bird handicap to those who shoot pump guns against semis and over/unders at his Handicap shoots at Rock Mountain.

On the other hand those who want to shoot vintage semis or pump guns or anything else just for fun can do that any time they want to at regular prices on sporting clays courses. Score card doesn't matter then. Just sayin .....

Drew Hause 09-04-2021 09:34 AM

No handicap needed for the Remington Autoloading Shotgun ;)

After introduction, it was quickly adopted by trap competitors; didn't hurt to have the great Rolla Heikes and Charles Budd on board (Heikes had used a Remington double to win the 1st 1900 GAH at Targets, and both used Parkers at the 1901 Anglo-American Match)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...C%201906-L.png

J.J. Banks then won the 1907 GAH

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...emington-L.jpg

And Fred Harlow won in 1908
Forest & Stream July 4 1908
https://books.google.com/books?id=ejQevDPMUIYC&pg=PA27

One of these would be nice; 1910 Norvell-Shapleigh Hdw. catalog

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...%20Hdw.-XL.jpg

Dave Noreen 09-04-2021 11:45 AM

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Norvell-Shapleigh was lagging behind the times. In the 1908 Remington Arms Co. catalog they began offering the Matted Rib on any grade for $7 list price extra. Also the option of 26-inch barrels. By the 1910 Remington Arms Co. catalog they dropped the list price of the Matted Rib to $6.75 and began offering the option of a Ventilated Rib on any grade for $13 list price extra.

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Here is the Model 11A from the first catalog I have showing the cross-bolt safety, circa 1929 Remington Arms Co., Inc. pocket catalog --

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overstamped with the 20-gauge info which was introduced in 1930.

Dave Noreen 09-04-2021 12:07 PM

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This from the August 12, 1933, Retail Price List is the nearest complete listing I have to Craig's gun --

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Brian Dudley 09-04-2021 12:36 PM

I have a Model 11 just like that one craig. It is the one model 11 that I kept from the time that I had examples of grades A - E.
I shoot the gun well, I like it a lot.

Mike Koneski 09-04-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 342709)
I wish the side game events at Rock Mountain and the Vintagers allowed pre-WW2 American made autos along with the pump guns events. I would like to acquire a high condition M-11B, D and E.

So let it be written, solet it be done!! I'm sure we can work in a vintage autoloader event. Must be a pre-WW II manufactured gun to compete. We wouldn't include it with the pump guns though.

Most likely run it as a non-trophy event for the first year and if it gets enough play we'd add a trophy in 2023. We're all about shotgunfun!!

Browning A-5, Remington Model 11, Savage Model 720 and Model 745


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