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Scot Cardillo 01-20-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Jay (Post 233354)
If all 12 gauge Parker Repros are capable of handling steel shot than I agree it’s overpriced. Have seen prices between $3500-$5000 in various conditions of non-SSS specific guns.

Not relevant to steel shot however, at one time I thought all of the Repro's were chrome lined chamber to muzzle. It was only after receiving a standard DHE 12ga I discovered I was wrong.

The SSS in fact has chrome lining clear through the chokes..standard DHE--nope. Chokes are not chrome lined. Further, the geometry of the chokes differ on my standard DHE compared to the SSS's I have on hand. None of the chokes have been altered.

Scot Cardillo 01-20-2018 11:24 AM

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Dean, it appears to me both sides of the subject guns BTFE are sloped down at the front. I don't see anything showing there was damage to the left side specifically..just different from other BTFE's, it appears. Am I missing something indicative of damage on the left side?

Here are 2 pics of two different BTFE's

The subject gun and a second photo from another ad (handsome gun btw). The BTFE I own on a 12ga is straight like the 2nd photo.

Dean Romig 01-20-2018 11:26 AM

From my experience, they're all straight like the second gun.





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Charles Shelton 01-20-2018 12:15 PM

MD
Nice looking gun and looks just like my 12 ga repro ( including chrome lined barrels) except that mine has a splinter fore end.

I hope the price is indicative of an increase in value for all Parker reproductions.

Dean Romig 01-20-2018 12:28 PM

Actually, the sell price is the indicator of the market.





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Greg Baehman 01-20-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scot Cardillo (Post 233357)

The SSS in fact has chrome lining clear through the chokes..standard DHE--nope. Chokes are not chrome lined. Further, the geometry of the chokes differ on my standard DHE compared to the SSS's I have on hand. None of the chokes have been altered.

As you recall Scot, you and I have previously discussed the unique feature of the SSS having chrome lining through the choke area. I was not aware, however; that the geometry through the chokes of the SSS differed from those of standard models. Would you expound on this a little more please?

Scot Cardillo 01-20-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 233393)
As you recall Scot, you and I have previously discussed the unique feature of the SSS having chrome lining through the choke area. I was not aware, however; that the geometry through the chokes of the SSS differed from those of standard models. Would you expound on this a little more please?

I'll have to dig around to see if I still have my notes but, from memory, my standard D grade's chokes begin about 2" behind the muzzle with a fairly long taper into the restriction.

The SSS's chokes begin about 2-1/2" behind the muzzle and the taper is more abrupt (or vise/versa w/the D grade). I'll see if I can't find my notes. If not, I'll do some more measuring and update this post.

Small sample of course but..

Gary Laudermilch 01-20-2018 04:43 PM

I'd be interested in the subject gun if it were not priced well beyond what it is worth. Just my opinion of course.

Scot Cardillo 01-20-2018 05:34 PM

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I wasn't able to find my notes so, out came the bore gauge for a quick check. It’s important to understand - hard numbers mean nothing (i.e., bore diameter / constriction) Geometry is the key.

The standard 12ga D grade chokes begin just shy of 2” from the muzzle. They slowly taper over the entire length of the choke. No straight section whatsoever. There is no chrome on the chokes.

My corresponding SSS chokes begin 2-9/16+ from the muzzle. They taper consistently until the choke straightens out. The last 3/8”+ is straight until the choke reaches the muzzle. The chokes are chrome-lined.

I didn't measure in a fashion to calculate actual taper per inch.

Clearly, this is a very small sample and should not be construed as being reflective of all Parker Reproductions - just what is in front of me.

That said, I will quantify my comparison by sharing that my D-grade is s/n 12-00176. My SSS is s/n 12SS-00176.

Greg Baehman 01-20-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scot Cardillo (Post 233407)
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I will quantify my comparison by sharing that my D-grade is s/n 12-00176. My SSS is s/n 12SS-00176.

That in itself qualifies as a near miracle!


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