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David Long 03-10-2011 01:05 AM

Winchester 21
 
Winchester 21 or Parker ?

Dean Romig 03-10-2011 05:46 AM

Parker, no question.

Dave Suponski 03-10-2011 06:55 AM

There is no question that a Model 21 is a well built gun and are rugged as all get out but I have found them to be clubby feeling.At least the ones that I have shot. I am sure there are some well balanced 21's out there but I haven't found one. As far as style I like the early guns with the sculpted frame better than the flat sided guns. Gun for gun The Parker Gun just seems to be more dynamic as well built and much more ascetically pleasing than the 21.

Dean Romig 03-10-2011 07:03 AM

I want what Dave had for breakfast.

Yeah, what Dave said.

Mark Ouellette 03-10-2011 07:06 AM

David,

What did you expect asking M21 or Parker on the Parker forum? :)

What is you intention? Is is as a shooter, collecting, appreciation, upland hunting, waterfowling, clays gun or?

If you want the strongest action then between Parker and M21 it is the M21. But if you what to shoot super hot loads buy one good autoloader. The recoil will be far less.

I owned a M21 Duck which was a fine gun. I let it go and put the received funds in another Parker. With far too many long barreled 12 and 10 gauge guns my favorite fowling piece is a Parker EH 10 Gauge in which I shot 2 7/8" low pressure loads. I have had performance with 1 & 3/8 oz Nice Shot that far exceeds my shooting ability.

So, M21 or Parker? There are some great buys on Parkers in this repressed market. One might even find a M21 at a good price.

You might however ask the same question on the M21 forum. I think Dick who runs that forum also owns Parkers.

PS: While I sold my M21 Duck I still own a M23 Heavy Duck. The M23 is a Japenese made gun but it fits me perfectly. Plus, with it I can shoot any steel shot high pressure loads without worry. That stated, I haven't shot the M23 in a couple years. I shoot and hunt with classic American SxS's.

I hope this babbling helps,
Mark

Mark Ouellette 03-10-2011 07:09 AM

More Coffee Dean!!! That's what Dave had...

Bill Murphy 03-10-2011 08:27 AM

It was a confusing question that morphed into a discussion of waterfowl guns. That's OK with me. Anyone who doesn't own a #2 or #3 frame Parker, a Model 21 Duck, and a Super Fox, should go shopping.

Bruce Day 03-10-2011 08:46 AM

Of the 21's I think the best are the 16ga's. They are built on the small frame, the same one used for 16's and 20's, and are better handling than the 12's. The trouble is that they will weigh about 7lbs and you can get the same ga, same barrel length in a 1 frame Parker and it will weight 4-8oz less and be faster handling. But I really like the 16ga 21's, they are great feeling guns.

David Holes 03-10-2011 08:51 AM

Started with a m23 which I have had for 30 years, seldom shoot and has been for sale. Found a nice m21 when market crashed 2 years ago. Skeet gun and I shoot it well. Decided I should look at older american guns. Found out that parker was one of the first manufactures of fine guns in america and I had to have one. Picked up a vh which I shoot very well for being tight choked. Nothing like two dust balls on station 7. And by the way, you just can't have one.

Mark Ouellette 03-10-2011 08:51 AM

Bill,

I figured Dave and Dean would expound on the vitures of a 16 gauge Parker for patridge :)


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