How big is Ithaca NID 10 mag compared to a #3 frame Parker ?
I was wondering if anyone has both who could post a picture of the frames beside each other . Its something ive been wondering about , I have seen people refer to the #3 frame as a light 10 ga and the NID mag being a larger frame . Something I have noticed is the barrels on the NID 10 mags look bigger because of how narrow the forend is on them . Is that because the forend is just that slender on the Ithacas or because the barrels are larger than those on a #3 frame Parker ?
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There is not too much difference in size between the frames.
The barrels on the mag 10s look heavy because they are. They are very thick and not struck too much for balance. They are pretty much an even taper from breech to muzzle. And... the frames on the mag 10 and the super 10 are the same. The 3 frame 10g Parker is not consider a “light” 10. A 2 frame 10 would be. The 3 frame is considered to be the standard and most common size for a 10g. |
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One of the reasons I was asking as well I have seen a few 8 gauges built on 10 ga 3.5s doubles from the 1960s . I had wondered if those frame were just that much larger than the older 10 ga frames that were designed for the 2 7/8s . I want to say it was a Dogs and Doubles article that I read . I was curious in what ways they beefed up guns with the 10 ga 3.5 . I really liked the 10 ga 2 7/8 chamber myself and may get another in the future . I love reading the history on how these big guns came to be . |
Why do you think a Parker frame would need to be modified just to have longer chambers?
What they would need to do is to make the barrel taper less acute from the breech to a point further along the barrels, thus ensuring sufficient wall thickness well past the juncture of the front of the chamber and the forcing cone. . |
When it comes to Parkers. A 3 frame is a 3 frame. Regardless of chamber length. Same goes for other frame sizes. The only difference in a gun that had longer chambers is how the barrels are struck. Longer chambered barrels would not swamp in an much as a shorter chambered gun.
In regards to the Ithacas. The only difference between the super 10 frames and the mag 10 frames is the the bottom through lug on the mag. |
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I was looking at that FrankenParker that pugs has with the steel barrels . You can visually see they have alot more contour to them than a NID magnum |
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Maybe Parker simply had more faith in the steel they were using for their barrels..... :whistle: . |
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I put my 8 gauge barrels beside a set of 10 ga barrels . The breech diameters dont look that much difference but you can tell the 8 ga barrels dont start to taper as early as the 10 ga barrels . Now I was looking at a 10 ga hammer gun on guns international . Its got some heafty barrels and weighs in 10 3/4lbs and the muzzles look pretty thick . But even so the gun has alot of taper to the barrels . I like heavy barreled 10 gauges especially when shooting the RST 1 1/8 oz loads . |
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