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John Nail 06-15-2021 01:22 PM

Trojan Project
 
I have an old unstocked Trojan that I picked up about 25 years ago from a friend. I had given it to my dad thinking he would do something with it, but I found that he stuck it in his safe, and it has been sitting there. Well, I have spent several days reading old threads and trying to put together a plan. It is a Parker Trojan 12 Ga., 30 inch barrels, serial no. 164537. (See attached pics... Better ones coming) I bought the gun with no stock attached, but a perfectly good working fore end. The entire gun has been re-blued, but the barrels ring true. One small spot of bluing missing, no rust or pitting on the exterior whatsoever (Although the internals show a need of cleaning up). Action opens easily, but is very solid and tight, and gun fires as it should. Internal safety bar or mechanism missing and has to be replaced. Having no collector value, I am going to turn this into an english stocked upland gun and hunt with it. My intentions are to have it restocked, and the barrels cut to 28 inches by Briley, and add thin walled choke tubes. Anyone here have any experience with a project like this? Looking for a gunsmith who could clean up the internals, replace damaged screws and safety mechanism, and fit a stock. Please feel free to comment, or suggest anything… Thanks for all the help!https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QA...-no?authuser=0

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Stephen Hodges 06-15-2021 01:44 PM

In my opinion you will have WAY to much money in this project for a 12 Gauge Trojan, not to mention the long period of time that it will take to have the work done. If you want to have a Trojan to hunt with I would buy one ready to go. JMHO

Gerald McPherson 06-15-2021 02:38 PM

Fit a stock? Do you have a stock?

Andrew Sacco 06-15-2021 03:04 PM

To put it into perspective, I entertained a better fitting stock on an LC Smith I once owned, the cost for a hand made stock was north of $6,000. Parker MIGHT be less work with inletting, but I'm guessing you're going to be into this for the price of two or three decent Trojans you can hunt with, especially in 12g. I'll see if others have opinions different from mine.

Dean Romig 06-15-2021 03:59 PM

I agree Andy.





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Gerald McPherson 06-15-2021 05:35 PM

I looked at a decent Trojan 12ga recently in a local shop priced at $750.

Austin J Hawthorne Jr. 06-15-2021 06:21 PM

You might think about keeping your trojan action and barrels for parts that you may need down the road. I agree with all the previous posters regarding the work ( expense ) needed to do as you are planning.

Brian Dudley 06-15-2021 08:31 PM

Doing that kind of work to any 12g Parker below a C or B grade does not many any sense from a financial standpoint. Unless you do not care, and by all means. Do it. It isnt always about money.

Bill Murphy 06-16-2021 02:35 AM

We haven't seen the pictures. How are the bores?

allen newell 06-16-2021 11:35 AM

Steve Hodges gave you the best advice. Save the Trojan for parts or sell it here on this site and pick up another Trojan that is complete and fully functional. What you have now is not a family heirloom but a parts gun.

todd allen 06-16-2021 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 336771)
Doing that kind of work to any 12g Parker below a C or B grade does not many any sense from a financial standpoint. Unless you do not care, and by all means. Do it. It isnt always about money.

I agree with Brian. I've done a lot worse things with money.
My friend, Chuck, (who Brian just finished some work for on a Repro) custom stocked a VH 12 ga. some years back, with some of the finest wood I have ever seen.
Wood on this level would be well over 2 grand these days, for a gun that's probably worth about $1,500.00
The hunting he has done with this gun just might have justified some of the cost, including his first triple on wild chukar.

Andrew Sacco 06-16-2021 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todd allen (Post 336815)
I agree with Brian. I've done a lot worse things with money.
My friend, Chuck, (who Brian just finished some work for on a Repro) custom stocked a VH 12 ga. some years back, with some of the finest wood I have ever seen.
Wood on this level would be well over 2 grand these days, for a gun that's probably worth about $1,500.00
The hunting he has done with this gun just might have justified some of the cost, including his first triple on wild chukar.

Todd, in MY MIND a triple is bang-bang...eject...load-load- close the gun -bang with birds that all flushed at the SAME time, or is my version of a triple not really a triple? If so, that's quite a feat!!! :bowdown:

Bruce Hering 06-16-2021 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 336817)
Todd, in MY MIND a triple is bang-bang...eject...load-load- close the gun -bang with birds that all flushed at the SAME time, or is my version of a triple not really a triple? If so, that's quite a feat!!! :bowdown:

Not sure about that..... A Scotch double and the a third bird would be a triple.... or reverse it to a single and a Scotch double.

Just sayin....

Harry Gietler 06-16-2021 07:45 PM

Just Remember This---A Trojan IS a A-1 Special Without ALL the War Paint.
All Parkers are the SAME On the Inside. If a guy wants to spend HIS money to make a Trojan look Better, Good, do not belittle Him for doing So!

Harry

Andrew Sacco 06-16-2021 07:59 PM

I don’t think anyone belittled him at all. Opinions can be helpful. I agree Harry though. Like I’ve said before I think I spent about $500 a pound for wild duck In arkansas. I don’t regret the trip. Sure could have bought duck breast cheaper at the market.

todd allen 06-17-2021 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 336817)
Todd, in MY MIND a triple is bang-bang...eject...load-load- close the gun -bang with birds that all flushed at the SAME time, or is my version of a triple not really a triple? If so, that's quite a feat!!! :bowdown:

Yes. It was bang bang, open,, pull the empties, load, and bang. Quite a feat, but Chuck is just the guy to pull it off.

Andrew Sacco 06-17-2021 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by todd allen (Post 336844)
Yes. It was bang bang, open,, pull the empties, load, and bang. Quite a feat, but Chuck is just the guy to pull it off.

W O W. I'm lucking to go bang the second time : )

Dave Noreen 06-17-2021 12:16 PM

Quote:

All Parkers are the SAME On the Inside.
The same design, but not the same fit and finish. I think it was Babe that showed us sample Parker internal parts with the different levels of polish for the different grades at the long ago PGCA get together at the Great Southern Weapons show at Richmond, VA.

As for the OPs issue, there are certainly options for a perfectly suitable restock to make a "shooter" that wouldn't be anywhere near as expensive as a correct restoration restock.

Brian Dudley 06-17-2021 12:23 PM

1 Attachment(s)
An example of what Dave mentions…

The inside of an AAHE.

A trojan sure does not look the same.

Attachment 96953

Harry Gietler 06-18-2021 12:49 PM

War Paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 336887)
An example of what Dave mentions…

The inside of an AAHE.

A trojan sure does not look the same.

Attachment 96953

That is what I mean by War Paint!

Harry


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