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Morris Davis 02-18-2014 08:58 PM

How do i reload a 10 gauge bismuth halls?
 
I'm relatively a new user on the site so if this should be posted elsewhere please let me know. Also if you know of any good resource material share it please.

I have 100 10 gauge bismuth halls, does anyone have any information on these? How do i reload the halls?

Rick Losey 02-18-2014 09:29 PM

hi Morris

which hulls are they?

that makes a difference

and what gun are you loading for - a modern gun or an old double?

Morris Davis 02-18-2014 11:27 PM

the hulls bismuth hulls from the old bismuth company and I will be loading for a mag 10 auto and a 10 gauge Parker soon I hope I need to know who made these hulls these hulls are from the bismuth cartridge company

Daryl Corona 02-18-2014 11:46 PM

Hulls are probably Cheddite.

Pete Lester 02-19-2014 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morris Davis (Post 131207)
the hulls bismuth hulls from the old bismuth company and I will be loading for a mag 10 auto and a 10 gauge Parker soon I hope I need to know who made these hulls these hulls are from the bismuth cartridge company

First question, are you going to be loading 3.5" or 2 7/8" 10ga or both? The Ithaca Mag 10 is of modern design, fluid steel barrels and was built to shoot 3.5 inch shell exclusively, I doubt it would eject most lower pressure 2 7/8" reloads many people load for their Parker 10's.

Are the hulls green with "The Bismuth Cartridge Company" "No-Tox" stamped on them in silver? The ones I have say Remington Peters 10 ga on the head stamp. The question is what Remington hull are they as referred to by Sherman Bell; Rem blkltr, Rem whtltr, Rem OS? I don't know for sure.

Those of us loading 2 7/8" 10ga sometimes have to use our head and sail into uncharted territory when it comes to reloading. I have not been afraid to do so.

I am assuming you are going to reload them with lead shot. Regardless of which Remington hull it is (assuming they are Remington hulls), Sherman Bell's data shows that using a soft primer, Winchester 209 and 30 grains of SR7625 will push an 1 1/4 ounce load around 1150 fps at pressures in the 5000 to 6500 psi range in hulls cut down to 2 7/8"

If I wanted to shoot 1 1/8 ounce loads in 2 7/8" hulls I would go with a faster powder like 700-x or Red Dot, 19 grains, realize however this is just me and when you load an "undocumented" recipe you proceed at your own risk but I shoot similar loads for several years without issue through three composite barrel 10ga doubles.

charlie cleveland 02-19-2014 09:10 AM

that red dot load is probably the best all around load ever made up for the older ten ga s.. charlie

Morris Davis 02-19-2014 05:17 PM

my hulls are red the head stamp says bismuth no tox I have read Sherman Bell I will load for my mag 10 full loads of bismuth and I am saving for a 10 gauge Parker hammer gun . I have shot mostly muzzle loaders guns should have hammers.

wayne goerres 02-19-2014 07:27 PM

There are a lot of hammer gun people on this forum. You should feel right at home.


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