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Milton C Starr 07-03-2019 06:07 PM

10 gauge on #2 frame ?
 
I just seen two 10 gauge parkers both on #2 frames listed for sale .
both are hammerless . The one gun is a tad over 7lbs probably the lightest 10 I have seen . How rare is it to see a 10 gauge parker on a #2 frame ?

Mills Morrison 07-03-2019 07:07 PM

I have two. Uncommon but not rare I would say

Milton C Starr 07-03-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 276817)
I have two. Uncommon but not rare I would say


Is there anyway to tell frame size on parkers 10 when the seller doesnt have it listed ?
I was looking at a 10 ga parker that was 10 3/4 lbs it seems heavier than most parker 10s I see which fall in the 9lb and some change weight .

scott kittredge 07-03-2019 07:54 PM

I have one too. It was my first 10 ga. From what i have found with most of the 2 frames 10 s is they were early hammerless guns. Remember the 1 st hammerless guns made were 12 ga. My guess they made 10 s on the early 12 ga frames to get some 10 ga guns out on the sales racks and to fill orders until they got the hammerless 3 frames made. ( thats my though on it ? ) My 10 is one of the 1 st 50 hammerless 10 s made. It's a eh 30 in. with Barrles choked .023 in both shoots 80% patterns weight is 8 3/4 lbs.
Scott

charlie cleveland 07-03-2019 08:01 PM

that 7 lb 10 ga would be rare on account of its light weight....that light weight would make a fine squirl gun....charlie

Milton C Starr 07-03-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scott kittredge (Post 276820)
I have one too. It was my first 10 ga. From what i have found with most of the 2 frames 10 s is they were early hammerless guns. Remember the 1 st hammerless guns made were 12 ga. My guess they made 10 s on the early 12 ga frames to get some 10 ga guns out on the sales racks and to fill orders until they got the hammerless 3 frames made. ( thats my though on it ? ) My 10 is one of the 1 st 50 hammerless 10 s made. It's a eh 30 in. with Barrles choked .023 in both shoots 80% patterns weight is 8 3/4 lbs.
Scott

I have heard of 10s being built on a #4 frame as well.
Is there anyway to tell the frames sizes apart just from looking?

Im going to be in the market for a parkers either a 10 or a 8ga in about 6 months and Im browsing all the different guns sites to see whats on the market .

I got a about 5 different guns I have my eye on .
The two 8 ga parkers I want to get the serial #s checked first to make sure they havnt had their barrels cut .

Have yall shot any of the RST 1 1/8oz loads in your #2 frame 10s ? I would think they would handle similar to a 12 ga just with longer barrels .

Milton C Starr 07-03-2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 276821)
that 7 lb 10 ga would be rare on account of its light weight....that light weight would make a fine squirl gun....charlie

It is the lightest 10 I have seen , there is another thats in the 8lb range that is marked as a wells fargo gun that was cut down to 25"

Charlie on the other end of the spectrum I just seen a spanish sxs 10 ga that was 14 1/2 lbs !

Dave Noreen 07-03-2019 09:17 PM

Anyone remember what the 1-frame 10-gauge weighed that was at Sandanona several of The Vintage Cup years there? A DH-Grade as I recall.

Milton C Starr 07-03-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 276826)
Anyone remember what the 1-frame 10-gauge weighed that was at Sandanona several of The Vintage Cup years there? A DH-Grade as I recall.

I will have to look into that sounds really interesting .
I once tried to get a sxs builder to make me a set of 8 gauge barrels for a 10 ga frame . He was totally against the idea , But I knew another gunsmith who used to bore out single barrel 10 gauges to 8 gauge and he proof tested them to about 22k psi .Using modern steel barrels of course .

This to me is what makes parkers the most interesting american sxs shotgun brand . All the different frame and gauge combinations they made .

I know some sxs makers today still offer bigger gauge to frames setups .
Like 16 ga on a 20 ga frame . wonder if anyone has built a 28 ga on a 410 frame ?

How rare are the tens that were built on the #6 frames ?

Bill Murphy 07-03-2019 09:45 PM

There are at least two 28 gauge Parkers built on the #000 .410 frame. They were displayed at a PGCA meeting at the Ohio Gun Collectors several years ago. They were originally sold at Baltimore a year or two earlier. Dave, I have a copy of the order for the #1 frame ten gauge, but don't recall if a weight was mentioned. The chamber walls on that gun made it the scariest Parker I have ever seen. My #2 frame 27" ten DH weighs 7 pounds 4 ounces. Tens on the #4 frame were all hammer guns in my experience. #6 frame hammerless tens are very scarce, but not unique by any means. I have one in fluid steel that was rebarreled at Parker Brothers when the original 8 gauge barrels were declared illegal for migratory birds.


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