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Mike Franzen 02-20-2013 12:25 AM

Invincible 233565
 
I was wondering who's initials L H belong to this gun?

Bill Murphy 02-20-2013 11:08 AM

I believe more than one article addressed the details of this gun. Kevin McCormack wrote one of them, as I recall. The gun manager at Butterfield's may have written the other. However, Larry Hagman comes to mind.

Mike Franzen 02-20-2013 11:22 PM

It seemed the quality of the engraving of the initials didn't match the rest of the gun.

Bill Murphy 02-21-2013 12:49 PM

Roger Lake is one of the people who wrote an article. I can't find it. By the way, the initials are not LH and Larry Hagman never owned it. The initials are HL and the owner was Dr. Henry Lyman.

Robin Lewis 02-21-2013 06:22 PM

Roger's article "The Lost Parker Invincible" is in Volume 8, issue 6 of Parker Pages dated Nov/Dec 2001.

Mike Franzen 02-21-2013 11:15 PM

sdrawkcab ti daer I lliB, yrroS

edgarspencer 02-24-2013 12:20 PM

I got a great education on two of the (supossed) three Invincibles Thursday night, over dinner with Gary and Deni Herman. He had loads of pictures and articles, current at the time he owned one of them. Some of them seem to disprove other 'information' out there.
Interestingly, 230329 was the only one marked with a 9 on the water table.
233565, the one monogrammed HL was subsequently sold to a man in Cheshire CT, 'Moose' Herrant. Gary could remember what 'Moose's real name was.
At the time Gary bought 230329 from the Ford estate, it was not the most valuable gun he had gone to buy. Unfortunately, when they went to retrieve it, Luger Sn. 1, prototype .45ACP, went missing.
Dave believes Henry Lyman was of the Lyman's who owned the orchards, cousins to Charley Lyman, also in Middlefield, who owned the gunsight company. Interestingly, a Dr. Henry Lyman, Yale University, 1928, lived right around the corner from my family, and Henry was the Senior Warden of Old St. Andrews Episcopal church. It would shikle the tits out of me to think that gun may have been that close to me, Though probably not as much as Gary, who owned it for a while.

Mike Franzen 02-24-2013 03:35 PM

Those mysterious guns are fascinating. I was struck by how relatively crude the initials H L appeared to be engraved. I think I could have done as good a job. It's no big deal, I just thought it stood out as unusual.

Bill Murphy 03-05-2013 11:57 AM

Edgar, I'm not sure about 233,565, but Moose Herrant owned 200,000 when he lived up the road from me in Maryland. Gary may have gotten his guns and addresses turned around. When Moose died and his widow gave the 200,000 gun to its next owner, 233,565 was still buried deep. I'm not correcting my friend, Gary. He has more gun knowledge in his little finger than I will ever have in my whole body. I'm just telling what I think I know.

edgarspencer 03-05-2013 02:27 PM

Bill, that sounded so emphatic, I seriously questioned whether I had gotten my facts correctly, even though neither Deni, nor Gary and I were drinking.
So doubtfull of my retention of information, I just called him and questioned him based upon what you just said.
He indicated that he never saw 200,000, and If Moose owned it, he couldn't say, nor did he know whether Moose lived in Maryland AFTER Cheshire CT, but he most assuredly says is that he and Deni WENT to Moose's house IN Cheshire CT at Mr. Herrant's request, and he handed him 233565.
Gary sold 230329 to Larry DelGrego, who, he thinks, sold it to Mr. Donne(SP?) in Chicago.
We all age at the same rate, but in my 40+ years of friendship with Gary, I've learned one thing regarding him; He is a steel trap for info, and is rarely wrong.


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