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Brad Bachelder 08-18-2014 07:18 PM

Damascus colors
 
The age old name used for the process is "browning".The ultimate color is dependent on the use of live steam for conversion from brown to black. Steam converts brown ferric oxide color to ferro-ferric black. In all of the accounts that I have read about the "Parker browning process", the steam room was used for conversion. Live wet and dry steam is the best converter to accomplish the correct contrast and color for a black and white finish.
In time black and white will somewhat brown as ferric is more stable than ferro-ferric, but is still black and white.
It is my belief that all Parker composite barrels were finished in black and white.

Brad

wayne goerres 08-18-2014 08:39 PM

This may be a dumb question but what is live wet and dry steam.

Brad Bachelder 08-19-2014 07:57 AM

Wayne

Live steam is generated by a boiler. Wet or dry refers to the degree of humidity in a room or a cabinet. In the conversion step of the process the level of humidity and temperature are critical to convert without rusting. If the steam causes red rust, the humidity is too high or the temperature is too low. It is a delicate balance.

Brad

wayne goerres 08-19-2014 09:23 AM

Thank you for the explanation Brad. I would like to see this proses.

Jeff Davis 08-19-2014 08:59 PM

Brad- when you talk about the steam, is that during the rusting process or the conversion of the brown to black? I always saw this described as "boiling", and assume true barrels were placed in boiling water.

I will say that the look of those browned Damascus barrels in the thread about the G grade are pretty cool looking.

Brad Bachelder 08-20-2014 08:33 AM

Jeff

In finishing Damascus boiling is only done at the point of final contrast. This step is actually dying the black and fixing the color. The conversion from brown to black is very gradual. The brown color is only part of the recipe.
It is very easy accomplish basic contrast with heat and various rusting agents.The deep, bold contrast as done by the factories is much more complicated than simply applying a rusting agent and boiling.
Both Angier and Gaddy understood that composite barrels were finished to black and white.
I have had the opportunity to see countless high original condition Doubles. I have never seen any Double with composite barrels finished to brown or plum color by the makers.

Brad

Gary Carmichael Sr 08-20-2014 10:04 AM

Brad, While photographing some guns this weekend I ran across a gun with Plain Steel barrels, it is a 4 digit ser number gun but these are not composite barrels they are steel barrels and they look blued or black . Are these early barrels made from rifle stock that was left over from the government contracts Parker had during the Civil War? I have not run across these barrels before! Looks like they would have to be blued rather than the damascus process, your thoughts please, Gary

Brad Bachelder 08-20-2014 10:41 AM

Gary

I have also seen early steel barrels, but only on three occasions. I have allways agreed with the account in the book. In refinishing they respond similar to Remington decarborized Steel. Very soft material.

Brad

charlie cleveland 08-20-2014 11:16 AM

i have 2 of these old guns marked plain steel one of these old guns is in fair shape i would say the barrels were blued..a dark blue almost black...charlie

Gary Carmichael Sr 08-20-2014 11:20 AM

Plain Steel
 
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Brad here are photos I took this morning, not very good but you can see the unusual markings on the barrel flats along with the order number, Gary


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