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allen newell 04-24-2023 02:00 PM

What powder to reload 410 ga shot shells?
 
What is the preferred powder for 410 ga reloading? I have 20/28, will that work?

Ken Burgess 04-24-2023 03:30 PM

Alliant .410 is what I use or H-110 or Lit'l Gun

Jay Oliver 04-24-2023 03:36 PM

Hi Allen,

There are a handful of good powders out there, I am not sure about 20/28 in a 410.

I have used H-110 in the past and Alliant 410(which I am using now and like). Lil Gun is also another powder, but I have not used it.

Most places stocked Alliant 410 during COVID so I built up my loads from using that powder. I like it and recommend it...

Edit: Great minds think alike Ken...we must have been typing at the same time

Tom Kidd 04-24-2023 05:45 PM

I used to load 2400 in 3" Federal papers with 3/4 oz shot and really liked it. Poor crimp, and had to candle drip a few per box, but they were the ticket back in the day. The load has taken everything from geese(double) on down to Wilson's snipe. Now, too hand feeble to reload 410's and back isn't happy cleaning up the all too frequent messes, so I am living off of the remains of a 'case' of 3" 7 1/2 Federal papers. A friend has offered to load me some #8's for quail and grouse, so I should be good to go, as I just rolled into my 83rd year of life Saturday, and wonder when I will finally have to quit???, doesn't appear to be on the horizon yet, the Big Guy willing.

Ken Burgess 04-24-2023 06:32 PM

I'm only 76 but still enjoy loading and shooting the .410. I have a large paper punch and make over shot cards for ragged crimps. There is little more fun then the satisfaction of smoking clays with a .410.

CraigThompson 04-24-2023 07:28 PM

I’ve been loading 410’s with WIN 296 for over forty years . FWIW 296 and H-110 are the same thing . I tried 2400 and it was okay , never tried IMR 4227 but many like it . Alliant 410 is supposed to be pretty good , I had some that came with a 410 loader I bought . But I never tried it .

Bill Murphy 04-26-2023 10:43 AM

I have loaded 296 and 2400 for over fifty years. My 296 supply will last a lifetime. No reason to change.

allen newell 04-30-2023 10:17 AM

I can only find Hodgdon Lil'Gun ppowder

Tom Kidd 09-12-2023 06:05 PM

Does anyone have a recipe for Lil Gun in 3" hulls with 3/4oz shot?? I have 100+ blue/green Remington 3" m/ts, and they have the biggest volume. I machined up a die that resizes the #57 Primer to a #209 size. And I just got some of the 'Stump' wads and have a 4 pounder of Lil Gun. I have an old published recipe that states 15gr 2400, any wad, any std primer, with 3/4oz, which is what I used to load in my Fed papers with 16gr. Does anyone have an old bag of Fed 3" paper M/Ts that they would be willing to part with as I still have a few pounds of 2400?? Mom unhappy, as I manage to dump about as many as get loaded. I am loading one at a time, resize and prime a few dozen, then drop into each one with my old Hollywood powder measure, put a wad in and tamp with a cu rod, and then the fun begins, when I weigh shot and dump in, then it is off to the precrimp and then the final crimp. Good thing I only shoot a few dozen or less on a dove outing. Thank You!

Bill Murphy 09-15-2023 12:55 AM

I am using the same heavy powder charge of 296 that I have used for my 2 1/2" shells. It is heavier (15 grains) than recommended but has worked for me forever. The pressure is probably even higher in a 3" 11/16 ounce load but I don't think it's over the top for pressure. Look in the Winchester loading manual.

Tom Kidd 09-15-2023 05:10 AM

Hi Bill,

I just scored the following 410s; Winchester Double-X Diamond Grade 410 Bore Ammo 3" 3/4 oz #7-1/2 Shot Case of 100 Rounds, for $179.00 (on sale, whuuuuu), but I, nor Mom, can get down to clean up the multiple messes when I reload 410s, and I have been invited to an early season grouse hunt as well as a pheasant hunt in Eastern Mont, so I just bit the bullet; we only live once! Now, to get some 8 or 8.5s for early season grouse and quail. The last time I heard of the Win Double X loads, I was informed that they were #8s & 9s??? I have a friend who is going to load some for me for late season quail, but I'm just getting going earlier this year, good thing, as NB said, you never know when you have gone on your last hunt. As an aside, does anyone know where I might get some B&P Extra Rossa 28ga fiber wad loads in 8s??

All the Best to Everyone during the Upcoming Seasons, Tom

Mike Koneski 09-15-2023 11:21 AM

Tom, I load 3" shells. I'll have to check this afternoon but I do have Li'l Gun data for those shells.

Mike Koneski 09-26-2023 01:15 PM

Tom, I load 3" hulls. 11/16 oz shot and have recipes for 13.11g Li'l Gun and 13.7g W296. I use the SP410wads or the BP Max410 wad with a .410OS card. Both powder charges work off a #10 bushing in my press.

Bill Murphy 09-26-2023 05:55 PM

i have all components to load 3" shells but am short on empties. Can anyone help?

Stan Hillis 09-26-2023 09:15 PM

I have a "custom" .73 oz. loading for 3" 410s that involves using Cheddite hulls, H110, roll crimps, and nickel plated shot. It is the hammer of Thor on small game birds like doves and quail. I took a limit of doves with it on opening day about three weeks ago, with my 30" barreled Dickinson S X S.

Been real busy with farming, Tom, but I'm trying to get you some loaded before you come to GA for your late quail hunt this winter. I need to see if I can get another 100 new, primed hulls.

Edit to add: Just did another online search and every supplier I can find is out of stock on the new, primed 3" Cheddite .410 hulls. Bummer ......... :crying:

Stan Hillis 09-26-2023 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 395784)
i have all components to load 3" shells but am short on empties. Can anyone help?

What do you need exactly, Bill? Brand?

RonKiska 09-27-2023 06:31 PM

I always used 296 until couldn't find it and only could find Lil Gun. Powder works well. Not switching back.

Bill Murphy 09-28-2023 09:24 AM

Stan, I would use any 3" hull in good condition. However, I know you use 3" hulls and I wouldn't like to cut into your supply.


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