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George M. Purtill 09-13-2018 01:29 PM

PR Sporting Clays Classic
 
This limited production Repro is said to have had only 125 guns produced.
I had wondered if they were all in one batch or were they spread out?
The one that just sold on GB was 12-01386. I own 12-01379 just 7 guns away.
Now conventional wisdom from our own John Allen says the Repros were in batches of 25.
I have seen SCC 12-01502 as it is my son's gun that he shot at Clemson (with orange extended screw in chokes-pretty wild). That is a spread of 123 in what I have observed.
Would any of you SCC owners be kind enough to post your serial numbers or email me at george.m.purtill@snet.net .
Thanks

Rich Anderson 09-13-2018 03:11 PM

Orange screw in chokes:eek: That would be wild looking for sure.

Tony Guccioni 09-13-2018 03:42 PM

The SCC that I recently sold was numbered - 01515

Greg Baehman 09-13-2018 05:41 PM

From what I've observed all 125 appear to have been produced in a single run -- if we can assume that they were serialized as they were built. I have SCC 12-1548 and 12-1549.

Yours George at 1379 and the GB 1386 throws my theory of all 125 being built in a single run out the window.

George M. Purtill 09-13-2018 06:49 PM

OR Greg
Perhaps there were MORE than 125. Let’s see what numbers get posted.
Victor???

Greg Baehman 09-13-2018 08:08 PM

Or George, another possibility is that they may not have been numbered chronologically.

George M. Purtill 09-13-2018 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 253443)
Or George, another possibility is that they may not have been numbered chronologically.

True
Let’s see some numbers:
Victor?
Scot?
Jay?
Kenny?

Michael Earls 09-13-2018 09:45 PM

My SCC is 12-01394

Scot Cardillo 09-14-2018 05:45 AM

no help here, George..I don't have a SCC.

I do have a standard 12g that's configured identical to a another I'm aware of that's 4 s/n's away from it. (pg,bt,sst). Now of course that doesn't show much of anything but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that 'lots' of 25, in some cases, were produced with the same configuration but who really knows?? It doesn't seem logical the factory would stray from a sequential/chronological numbering scheme but there again, who really knows?

Victor Wasylyna 09-14-2018 03:18 PM

I’m 12-01521.

-Victor

Greg Baehman 09-15-2018 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scot Cardillo (Post 253474)
It doesn't seem logical the factory would stray from a sequential/chronological numbering scheme but there again, who really knows?

You're right Scot, it doesn't seem logical, but it did happen and there is someone that does know! . . . and it was told to me in a direct conversation I had with this individual that is very, very, very close to the Parker Reproduction project. The factory did indeed stray away from sequential/chronological numbering - not necessarily with the SCCs, but with another model. If it occurred with other models, it very well could have occurred with the Sporting Clays Classics as well.

Donovan Kirkpatrick 09-20-2018 11:20 AM

Mine:Unfired. 12-1482

Ralph English 09-23-2018 04:26 PM

sn. 12-01481

Kenny Graft 12-30-2018 08:45 AM

I would think they built them hap-hazardly maybe when ordered by the dealers. Or just how they fell in assembly by the builders???

Harry Goetz 01-09-2019 08:40 PM

I have number 1201071
Harry

Greg Baehman 06-23-2019 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Goetz (Post 262480)
I have number 1201071
Harry

Harry, is yours a Sporting Clays Classic model with "ISC" stamped on the barrel flats where Parker Reproductions choke designations are customarily stamped? The reason I ask is your gun's serial number falls outside of the usual range of SCCs.

Harry Goetz 06-23-2019 08:04 PM

PR Sporting Clays Classic
 
My number PR 12-1071 has no "ISC" marked IMP CYL/MOD and small circle with pw

Phil Cloninger 06-22-2022 08:23 PM

I recently acquired the SCC that Jloew had at the Southern SXS, 12-01526.
PG, SST, SPL

David C Porter 06-22-2022 08:48 PM

I just purchased one & ser. # is: 12-01482

Greg Baehman 06-22-2022 08:49 PM

Good for you Phil and welcome to the forum! You're going to really appreciate the versatility of the SCC. How about showing it to us in the "Let's see some wood" thread? You purchased SCC 12-1526 from Josh, I see he's got another SCC, 12-1484 currently listed on GI.

Greg Baehman 06-22-2022 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David C Porter (Post 366389)
I just purchased one & ser. # is: 12-01482

Small world...I see you purchased Donovan Kirkpatrick's unfired SCC. Congrats! I don't believe Donovan ever posted pics here on the forum of his gun, how about you do in the "Let's see some wood" thread"?

David C Porter 06-22-2022 09:45 PM

I won't be able to pick up until July 1st. I'll post pictures then. Here's the listing: https://dawsonsdoubles.com/product/7...6-chokes-rare/

David C Porter 07-01-2022 01:43 PM

I know the skeet chokes have been discussed before, where they are listed SK-1 & SK-2. Although everyone indicates they are only marked skeet & both are the same. I just purchased an unfired SCC that belonged to Donovan Kirkpatrick & the two skeet chokes are different. The first is marked Winchester 12-S (.733). The 2nd is not marked Winchester 12-S. It's marked S with an electric pen (729). I'd like to hear back from Kirkpatrick if the electric pen marked S choke is original to the gun. If it is, then it is a SK-2 since it's .004 tighter than the Winchester 12-S choke.

Phil Cloninger 07-01-2022 09:01 PM

For info, the 6 chokes from my SCC 12-1526 are marked:
12-S, 12-S, 12-IC, 12-M, 12-F, and 12-XF.
All have the Winchester label under the choke identifier letters.
Interesting in that I don't recall anyone mentioning having an XF in the set.

David C Porter 07-01-2022 09:34 PM

All of mine are marked Winchester, except for the one marked S with an electric pen. Also, no XF, but have IM.

Phil Cloninger 07-02-2022 10:53 PM

Greg, I had read a couple of your posts on the versatility of the SCCs before I saw the one Josh had at the Southern SxS. That was the reason it caught my attention...

In upland hunting in thick cover in the Southern Appalachians, I have always favored 26" barrels...Josh found a set of original factory new 26" Q1 and Q2 barrels, which I purchased and plan to have fitted to the SCC making it an even more versatile 2-barrel set. I hope this will also add to the value of the gun.... Thanks for your posts that brought the SCCs to my attention.

Donovan Kirkpatrick 07-03-2022 10:13 AM

Dawson's Doubles has a set of PR 12 ga bbls choked Q1/Q2 26".

Greg Baehman 07-03-2022 10:24 AM

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Thank you for that Phil. We band of SCC owners belong to a pretty exclusive club! It appears your XF tube was substituted for the customarily found IM tube in the SCC set. I also have an Winchester XF Winchoke choke tube which I later purchased along with a Browning-stamped CYL choke tube.

My choke tubes mike out with the following constrictions, I had posted these previously, but for the benefit of new owners here they are once again:
* CYL = .000
* Skeet = .003
* IC = .009
* M = .016
* IM = .019
* F = .029
* XF = .039

David, you can see from the attached Winchoke pamphlet a Skeet ll choke tube isn't listed. Skeet ll choke is generally thought of being a little tighter than IC at ~.012. Given that yours aren't stamped with the Winchester logo I would suspect it is an aftermarket tube, that's not to mean it isn't useful. Maybe Donovan can shed some light on it. ??

David C Porter 07-03-2022 02:50 PM

Donovan responded to me & said he's had the SCC for 12 years & did not add the additional Skeet choke. He didn't indicate if he was the original owner. You're correct that the additional Skeet choke is not a Winchester choke, but another manufacture. It doesn't have the larger OD lip @ the end of the choke like Winchester chokes do. It's the same OD from top to bottom & the S marking is in electric pen.


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