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Jack Johnson
06-04-2009, 07:54 PM
I now have a L.C. Smith long Range . It has 32 in barrels in the field grade model. Acoording the LCSCA it is the earliest seriel number that they have encountered so far . My question is what is the best load size ie: Dre , shot wt. etc to shot through this waterfowling gun. And BTW, that is exactly what I will using it for . I will attached a few pics

Francis Morin
06-07-2009, 05:00 PM
I use the Classic Doubles shells from Cabelas in my Smith 12- it has 3" chambers, but not marked like yours, double triggers, auto ejectors and 32" Ventilated rib barrels. I only use the 2 and 3/4" loads- 1 and 1/8th oz. No. 4 (marked Hevi-Shot on head of shell) and they drop ducks and geese fine. I also use this Smith for Tower birds, fezzants at my local club in Grand Rapids, and pigeons at the Marion Club- when I can find them I use the older Federal Premium Copper Plated loads, again in 2 and 3/4" length only. Wish they were legal for waterfowl.

Drew Hause
06-14-2009, 11:29 PM
Jack: Do your barrels have the 'LLH' mark just ahead of the flats? LLH was the mark of Laurent Lochet-Habran, a Belgian barrel maker. Sanderson Steel is reported to have purchased barrels from LLH, and their mark has also been found on Fox, Ithaca, Lefever, Baker, and Hunter Arms Fulton and "Ranger" for Sears guns.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19686599/321880110.jpg

You might enjoy http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17318961

Jack Johnson
06-20-2009, 11:20 AM
Drew , yes there is the LLH stamp on both barrels . Is this significant ? What does this mean . Thanks for what ever info you can give . Thanks

Drew Hause
06-20-2009, 12:15 PM
Thanks Jack. It's a common finding on "Armor," "London," and occasionally "Nitro" steel barrels, but the first time I've seen that mark on a LRWF.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19686599/265104125.jpg

Here's more infro:
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20l/a%20lochet%20l%20et%20g%20gb.htm
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20l/a%20lochet%20famille%20gb.htm

Knick SBT

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/18490292/335652203.jpg

Baker guns with 'LLH' may be marked "Nitro Rolled Steel" and "Fluid Temper Steel."

BTW: The three-lobed crown over a 'D' mark of Jean-Baptiste Delcour-Dupont of Nessonvaux is also found on Smith, A.H. Fox, Lefever, and Ithaca NID and Lefever Nitro Special A Grades

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19686599/250543183.jpg

james van blaricum
06-24-2009, 03:58 PM
I have a Marlin LC Smith double that is a beautiful gun, however the foriron that keeps the forend on the barrels is broken. I have the broken part but would like to get a new one. I can't seem to find one, does any one have any idea's

James Van Blaricum

Bob Brown
06-25-2009, 07:36 PM
Jack, I have a Field 1924 32" Smith that looks similar to yours without the 3" chamber stamp. The chambers may have been lengthened as it is now a 3" gun. I've shot 2 3/4" 1 3/8 oz Kent TM shells through it for geese without damage, but I wouldn't do it again unless I had it glass bedded to prevent cracks. They were effective, though.
James, have you tried posting on the L.C. Smith website for the part you are looking for?

Francis Morin
06-26-2009, 06:50 PM
I have a complete unbroken forearm iron with screws for a 12 gauge LC Smith- but for an O grade circa 1895- extractor gun. Sorry- I sold the part to a gentleman in Upstate NE-

Drew Hause
06-29-2009, 05:44 PM
Smith parts sources http://www.lcsmith.org/faq/parts.html

james van blaricum
06-29-2009, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the information, I have been in the Heart Hospital and have not been able to
respond, but will do so as soon as I get home in the next couple of days.

James Van Blaricum

Francis Morin
06-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Hope you have a full and speedy recovery. I will be attending a Michigan side-by-side SC shoot in mid-July, and will have Smith and possibly Parker parts for the swap and sell. The forearm iron is not a big ticket item, so I will hold it for you, and once you are back on your feet, send it your way.

I looked over my 1917 reproduction Smith catalogue, pages 20 and 21- if your Marlin Smith is an extractor gun and on the Standard or "R" frame, it is possible that a gunsmith/machinist could fit it to your Smith. However, if your Smith is a FW frame, I don't believe my forearm iron would fit.

Interesting to me is the illustrations show four styles of forearms, the iron is apparently included with the wood. Two are for hammerless, two for hammer guns. F.M.

Greg Franklin
07-28-2009, 06:13 PM
Good looking gun; hope you enjoy the hunting! I have an A.J. Aubrey, of the same dimensions, and would sure like to take it out for ducks. They are a little hard to find here in the desert..........:rolleyes: