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Thomas L. Benson Sr.
02-11-2012, 08:57 PM
Would like to find out the grade of this L.C.Smith 12 ga. ser. 93913. The barrels have been cut off but retains nice wood and nice engraving. I love the dog on the forend wood.It has no safety and the stock doesn't look to be cut. Thanks Thomas
charlie cleveland
02-11-2012, 09:06 PM
looks like a no2 grade to me...no higher than a no3...but i believe a no 2... its a fulton made gun i reall like this grade of gun...ps not a quality grade 2 just a no 2 grade....its confusing....nice gun...... charlie
Thomas L. Benson Sr.
02-11-2012, 09:15 PM
Charlie: It has a 2 stamped on the barrel in front of lugs so that would explain that.Thanks Thomas
Dean Romig
02-11-2012, 09:17 PM
What is that gorgeous bauble holding the gun in the raised position? Is that an old cane or walking stick top?
Thomas L. Benson Sr.
02-11-2012, 09:39 PM
Dean: Yes it is a old walking stick that needs new wood and i need to get that done soon.Thanks Thomas
Dean Romig
02-11-2012, 09:42 PM
Very Nice!
Yes, new wood... Hmmm... hickory or ebony or maybe strips of both done like a cane fly rod.
Thomas L. Benson Sr.
02-11-2012, 11:18 PM
couple more pictures of L.C.Smith
Brian Dudley
02-12-2012, 09:22 AM
Looks like an earlier Syracuse gun to me. I was thinking grade 2 as well.
Patrick Lien
02-12-2012, 11:14 AM
Thomas,
That is a grade 2 from about 1899-1900 I think. Are the barrels fluid steel or damascus? I used to have a good set of damascus barrels for that receiver. I will look if they are still here.
Patrick
Thomas L. Benson Sr.
02-12-2012, 01:18 PM
Patrick: The barrels are fluid steel and now it is a cowboy action gun with 19 1/2 inch barrels. That really sucks but it is what it is. Thomas
Jack Kuzepski
02-12-2012, 03:27 PM
It is a Grade 2 but made in Fulton, it is still a pre-13 Smith. There are a number of features that are the indicators. The rounded front of the forend lug, the dog escutchion in the forend, the shape of the forend tip inlay, the engraving pattern on the locks and the lack of wings filed under the action. It is a shame about the barrels but still a very pretty gun.
Jack Kuzepski
Drew Hause
02-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Jent: there appears to be a crack in the lump
http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/15234180/401028987.jpg
I just picked up these barrels on the LCSCA site
http://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/1326469280.html
They are Armor steel, marked '2', and were likely (much later) factory skeet barrels made for a 1901 unknown grade gun. The muzzle of the left barrel might be slightly out of round and it looks like they were dropped with a cosmetic ding on the chamber end of the right barrel. Rib is intact and they ring like a bell and the pin & disc barrel check and extractor are there.
I'd like to help get Thomas' neat gun back in service. Unfortunately that serial number is part of the 'lost' series, so no Research letter would be available, but it likely started as a Live Bird/Trap gun.
If no one else buys the gun, I probably will, but am concerned about the extent of the needed wood repair. If someone buys the gun and wants the barrels contact me at revdoc2@cox.net
Thomas L. Benson Sr.
02-14-2012, 02:12 PM
Jent: It is for sale on the for sale forum at this time. Great looking gun they did a great job.Do you have before pictures or did I miss those in another post.Thanks Thomas
Mills Morrison
02-14-2012, 10:50 PM
Hello OLD G, Are you going to sell this LCS #2 OR are you going to restore this LCS #2 ??? Brad B and the craftsmen at his gunsmithing shop recently finished restoring a LCS #2 for me and turned it in to a great clay target shooting machine. Here is the LINK to some of the pictures and details of the restoration that Brad B and Channing W did for me.
http://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/1314712320.html
http://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/1314712667.html
http://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/1314713679.html
http://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/1315177518.html
Good Shooting To You, Jent
Those are beautiful pictures and a beautiful gun.
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