Guild gun? or ?

[Roger Whitfield]

Got this gun in a trade a few years back and don't know much about it except it came back from WWII. 16 gauge 28 7/8" Krupp steel barrels. Cross bolt. Cocking indicators. Any help IDing it is appreciated.. Thanks, Roger

[charlie cleveland]

cant help with the make but a nice lookin gun it is..... charlie

[Rick Losey]

have you tried asking on the German collector's site

http://www.germanguns.com/

[Roger Whitfield]

have you tried asking on the German collector's site

http://www.germanguns.com/

Yes Thanks

[David Long]

That is a very nice shotgun

[Roger Whitfield]

That is a very nice shotgun

A gentleman from the German Gun Collectors site says it was made in 1922-23 in Zella-Mehlis, Germany.

[John Campbell]

Whatever you do, please don't "restore" it in any way. I has history on many levels. Keep that dimension. Know who brought it back from Europe?

Best, Kensal

[John Mazza]

Yes, it was proofed in January of 1923 (that's what the 1.23 means). The number beneath that is the ledger number of the proof house's records. The left barrel bears the "Crown W" proof mark, which if my failing memory serves - indicates a choked barrel. The lack of this stamp would imply a cylinder bore to the right barrel. It's a nominal 16 bore. The "Crown S" stamp was for smoothbore barrels, and the "Crown U" was the provisional proof marking. The "smashed bug" symbols are also typical proof marks. (It's actually an eagle with spread wings). The frame bears the "Crown N" proof - meaning proof with nitro powder. It's common to see the service load stamped onto the sides of each barrel, near the breech end. It should indicate the weight (in grams) of the shot charge, over the weight (in grams) of the powder charge. {One ounce of shot will be marked approx. 28.4 grams.}

I also completely agree with Kensal - don't refinish anything ! That's a nice gun, and I always liked sideclips - it's such a cool touch !

Get it checked out & shoot 2 1/2" ammo. (I use RST - their stuff is top quality !!!)


John

[Roger Whitfield]

Thanks John
It is a really nice gun and the only thing I can find that I don't like about it is that it is not a Parker. I am quite sure that poor kraut was crying in his beer as that GI carted off his meat getter..Roger

Chokes are R. .005 L. 033

[Rick Losey]

it is a very nice piece

I expect many more of these treasures to be appearing now, as that generation passes. I have seen a couple really nice examples in the past few years that were known to be war trophies. Some of those GI's had a good eye for their next bird gun.

might make a nice topic for a series of articles in Shooting Sportsman or Double Gun Journal

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