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Gene Fox
01-29-2012, 10:01 AM
Hello folks great to be a new member! I am looking for some info. I have cruised the internet and could not figure out much about this gun. I even used the Parker site which is very good i must add and still at a road block. I have found this gun at a estate clean out and would like to find out more about it. The patent date is March 26th 1878, and the serial number which is all over the gun is 62070. I have found on the site that this was made in 1890. OK then the frame size is a 3, this is marked exactly where they say to look. Then i go to weight, where they say to look is marked with a 5 (which is large) and a small 7 just to the right of the 5 and a little above. This is where the roadblock starts. i cannot find this number anywhere on the PGCA site. Then going to where the grade is on the water table, it is marked with the serial number and then below this a small N then a patent date of Mar. 16 1875. I just cannot figure this out, i am sure that you guys are a lot smarter than I , and if anyone can help that would be much appreciated. Also there is a butt cover with a dog logo on it seems to be of bakelite. Oh and yes the gun is marked on both sides Parker Bros. I will try and post some photos as soon as i can.
Thanks Gene

Jeff Kuss
01-29-2012, 10:22 AM
Your gun is listed as Plain Twist, 10 ga. with 32" barrels. It should have a capped pistol grip. The N is a 10 ga G grade style gun.

Gene Fox
01-29-2012, 10:30 AM
Thank you is the manufacture date correct and does this gun have a value i know condition is everything The barrels are 32" long and i believe this gun was never apart the screws throughout the gun seem to be unmolested. Thanks Gene

Jeff Kuss
01-29-2012, 10:38 AM
The manufacture date is correct. Without pictures, or in hand, it is impossible to give a value range.

Gene Fox
01-29-2012, 10:44 AM
will post photos as soon as i can thanks again for the help. Gene

Gene Fox
01-29-2012, 11:44 AM
here are some photos of the gun gene

Dean Romig
01-29-2012, 05:30 PM
Jeff is correct that it is a NH in ten gauge but he incorrectly typed that it is a G grade. It can't be both a G grade and an N grade. It is indeed an NH grade which is also referred to as a Grade 1. A GH grade is also referred to as a Grade 2.

Confused yet?

Trojan is not number graded.
VH is also a Grade 0
PH and NH are also Grade 1
GH and EH are also Grade 2
DH is also a Grade 3
CH is also a Grade 4
BH is also a Grade 5
AH is also a Grade 6
AAH is also a Grade 7
A1S is also a Grade 8
Invincible is also a Grade 9

Gene Fox
01-29-2012, 08:51 PM
Thanks Dean, however still confused My gun is an 1890 NH grade 1, this is as far as I got so far. OK I am new to this. Now when you get to value can you give me some Idea. I am thinking if this gun is worth enough I might just get it restored and use it . any ideas on this. Gene

Bill Murphy
01-30-2012, 11:32 AM
No need to get it restored. It is probably ready to shoot with a little lightweight cleaning with very fine steel wool and oil on the metal and a little Murphy's oil soap on the wood. Anything more than that will cost a fortune and lower the value of the gun.

Pat Dugan
01-31-2012, 11:18 AM
Probably worth in the high hundreds. Just shoot it ,

PDD

edgarspencer
01-31-2012, 06:25 PM
Is that a scratch running fore and aft on the left side of the stock, or is it actually split?

Gene Fox
02-05-2012, 04:38 PM
its a scratch

Richard Flanders
02-06-2012, 09:05 AM
Looks like the buttstock is split near in half in one of those pictures. Oops. I see above that it's a scratch.

Dave Noreen
02-06-2012, 05:47 PM
The NH-Grade was the 10-gauge equivalent of the PH-Grade in 12-, 14-, 16- and 20-guages. They were both Quality 1 guns. Essentially in the lower Qualities, 1 and 2 a 10-gauge gun cost $5 more than the same Quality in the smaller gauges, hence the NH equal to a PH grade, and the EH equal to the GH grade.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/PH-andNH-Grades.jpg

This is what a nice NH-Grade should look like --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/189410-gaNH-Graderightclose.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/189410-gaNH-Gradestockleft.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/189410-gaNH-Gradestockright.jpg

E Robert Fabian
02-06-2012, 06:11 PM
My 1889 NH...has a bit more wear now.

Jim Bennett
08-06-2012, 01:20 PM
Steel wool??
I suggest brass wool instead.