Any thoughts

[William Maynard]

I am curious of any opinions on this engraving on this Damascus PHE. #64830

[Dave Suponski]

The frame engraving is Parker. I think the barrels were engraved by the Aztecs.

[William Maynard]

:rolleyes:Someone had taken some time to do this.. Is there anything in the book with the serial number? Dave, I have to watch out if I compliment you...

[Dave Suponski]

Plain Twist ,12 gauge, 30" barrels, capped pistol grip, extractors.

Ya Bill..Watch it JB is lurking in the shadows.....

[Daryl Corona]

I've shot with the Aztecs at Pintail Point and they are not going to take this lightly. They take great pride in their engraving program for the challenged. The two arrow heads on either side are found on the earlier Fox Sterlingworths. Maybe a connection here. You really make me laugh OP.

[William Maynard]

Plain Twist ,12 gauge, 30" barrels, capped pistol grip, extractors.

Ya Bill..Watch it JB is lurking in the shadows.....

OK, Dave Very interesting.. This barrel does not look like plain twist to me.. look at the photos.. This gun also had ejectors.....

[William Maynard]

I've shot with the Aztecs at Pintail Point and they are not going to take this lightly. They take great pride in their engraving program for the challenged. The two arrow heads on either side are found on the earlier Fox Sterlingworths. Maybe a connection here. You really make me laugh OP.
B.S. aside, do you know anything about the engraving?
Thanks:corn:

[Dave Suponski]

Those are damascus all right. Maybe sent back to be rebarreled? A letter might help with this mystery.

[Dean Romig]

After examining the "pineapple" motif I'm more inclined to think the barrels were engraved by Hawaiians.

[William Maynard]

Thanks Dave, I just picked this gun up. It was calling my name for awhile.. I honor your opinion. It was a good price. This gun has ejectors. 1 fram.. 1891.. Thank you, I am going to order a letter.. Crazy engraving!

[Dean Romig]

B.S. aside, do you know anything about the engraving?
Thanks:corn:

Once again I'm going out on a limb here and say the barrels were not engraved by Parker Bros.

[William Maynard]

After examining the "pineapple" motif I'm more inclined to think the barrels were engraved by Hawaiians.

Dean, have you ever seen any added engraving?

[Dean Romig]

I've seen a lot of "added engraving" and very little of it can be attributed to Parker Bros.

[William Maynard]

When I first seen it, I thought the same thing.. Someone loved this gun and paid somenone to engrave it.. I am now very interested in the letter.. Perhaps the barrels were changed.. Thanks for your opinion!

[Dave Suponski]

Bill, How about some more pictures of the "Ol girl"? Some of us have this thing about naming our guns. How about "The Hawaiian" A 1 frame 12 sweet.

[Daryl Corona]

Seriously Bill the engraving is one of a kind and unlike anything I've ever seen. The arrow heads are just like the Sterlingworth engraving so maybe there is a connection to someone at Fox. Overall it's not that bad and is certainly unique. A letter might shed some light on it. Good luck.

[William Maynard]

LOL,, I like it Dave! Here are a few more.....Please let me know if you can pick anything else up from the photos...Give me a moment and I will take much clearer photos...

[Destry L. Hoffard]

The pineapple was a colonial symbol of wealth and welcome, might be the basis to the engraving.

DLH

[Bill Murphy]

Post a picture of the serial number on the barrel lug. That picture may give us a clue.

[William Maynard]

Post a picture of the serial number on the barrel lug. That picture may give us a clue.
Will do.

[Robert Delk]

The pineapple motif shows up a lot in 18th century american furniture as carving and finials. Have seen it also on early american silver and weapons.

[Mike Poindexter]

We know that factory ejectors were not made on guns this early, and the damascus doesn't fit the original specs. Also, look at the barrel flats and lug. It looks unusual to see the lug in blued steel soldered into the damascus barrels. I would guess this was done while refitting the gun with ejectors. All in all, looks like a factory refit with damascus bbls and ejectors. An interesting gun!

[William Maynard]

While refitting with ejectors. Shouldn't the forearm been replaced? The serial number on the barrel lug is 84025

[Mike Poindexter]

I didnt know the barrel lug number was different than the frame. I would guess that rules out a factory refit of the barrels. Yes, I think the complete forend would have to be relaced, wood, iron, and internals, to convert it to an ejector, along with the frame being drilled and separate ejector plungers installed in place of the extractor. Do the ejectors work?

[William Maynard]

Stay Tuned! more to come.