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Paul Harm
12-22-2011, 12:39 PM
A guy at the club gave me some wads, they were in a Herters box. White, two petals, some were slit and some were attached at the very top. They seem to be 1 1/8oz because 1oz would fill them to the top leaving an 1/8 sticking up [ as I've found with most wads - don't ask me why the petals don't inclose all the shot - the Remington SP 10 ga wads are for 1 5/8 to 2 1/4oz ] . Anyways, the cushion height is very short for some reason. For Claybusters 1oz wads - CB-1100 - the cushion is .965 , for my new wads one is .545 and the other is .445 of an inch. They work great in a 2 3/8 to 2 1/2" shell when useing 700X. Haven't patterned one yet, but I have some old Herter wads for 1 7/8oz shot, two petal unslit, I use to use in a 12ga muzzleloader with buckshot and at 30 paces the wad would stick in a 3/4" chipboard with only one or two pellets next to the wad. Don't ask me when the pattern opened up- it was 30 years ago when I did it. Still have some of them. These new wads must have been for duck hunting. On one box there's factory printing that says 1 1/8oz slit and the other box hand written 7/8oz unslit. Why such light loads with a short cushion height with two petal wads and some are unslit - the unslit are serious long range wads. Must of been for powder that took up a lot of room . I don't know for sure, but with 700x I'd have to use a lot of shot for a 2 3/4" shell. Strange. Paul

Robert Rambler
12-22-2011, 09:51 PM
My guess would be they were designed to be used in hulls that had a thick basewad in the bottom. I have some paper Winchester Ranger hulls I reload that have a basewad thats almost 1/2in thick. I have to use the older WAA12R wads to reload em.

Paul Harm
12-23-2011, 10:12 AM
Jent, don't you find you'll have very tight patterns ? Paul

Dave Suponski
12-23-2011, 03:17 PM
Jent,Why are you yelling?

Paul Harm
12-25-2011, 10:49 AM
Dave, maybe Jent has trouble seeing so he prints BIG. Jent, from past experience the unslit wads gave me a very tight pattern. Your reply about a high base explains a lot. Probably for reloading those types of shells for duck or goose hunting where you'd want a tight pattern. Paul

Dave Suponski
12-25-2011, 02:03 PM
Jent, Now that we know the deal. That size 3 seems pretty good on these old eyes too....:)

scott kittredge
12-25-2011, 04:33 PM
Jent, Now that we know the deal. That size 3 seems pretty good on these old eyes too....:)

is there a number 5, i still need glasses for #4 and under:crying: scott

Pete Lester
12-25-2011, 08:09 PM
is there a number 5, i still need glasses for #4 and under:crying: scott

and your mom warned you would go blind......... :rotf:

scott kittredge
12-26-2011, 05:17 AM
and your mom warned you would go blind......... :rotf:

can see that but still fuzzy on the edges:rotf:

Paul Harm
12-26-2011, 12:46 PM
this is greatwhat I don't learn on the Parker web site. Paul

Fred Preston
12-26-2011, 06:29 PM
Whats the problem?

John Farrell
12-26-2011, 08:59 PM
Jent - if the type is too small on your computer just hold down the ctrl key and click the + bar on the right side of the numeric block. That improves the visibility quick. To make it smaller, hold down the ctrl key and click the - key on the right. JF

Paul Harm
01-04-2012, 02:30 PM
Jent, thanks for explaining the reason for the short wads [ Remington shells with thick base wad ] . Now, why do you think some of the Herters wads were connected at the top where one could use them unslit or cut the tab and have two petals ? For duck and goose, or some other long range hunting? It's nice what one can learn about shells, reloading, etc. on this forum. Paul