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Brad Bachelder
08-22-2011, 02:43 PM
Chain pattern Damascus comprises a large percentage of our refinishing. Regardless of the brand name, the pattern is fairly consistant. Size and spacing seem to be the only variables. In this last group we ran a set of LC Smith, Meriden, Lefever and a set of Baker barrels as pictured below. The first three are typical but the last pictures are what was first thought as a basic Baker chain. However, after the first rusting it became obvious that this was not chain. What is it? I can't seem to ID it?
Thanks,
Brad

Tom Carter
08-22-2011, 02:59 PM
Brad, I can only identify it as BEAUTIFUL.
Cheers, Tom

Drew Hause
08-24-2011, 05:37 PM
As we've discussed before, barrel and gun makers could call their patterns pretty much whatever they wanted, so let's call this "Bachelder" :bowdown:

I've never seen that pattern Brad, but it was obviously somebody's Chain or Chainette. Are there any maker's marks just forward of the flats? Many thanks for posting!

Brad Bachelder
08-24-2011, 05:59 PM
Each tube is stamped ahead of the flats with a "D" and a sideways 4. The flats are stamped with 4 digit serial number followed by P.D.. I have not seen these letters on a Baker before. The gun is a "R' grade with two sets of barrels, same pattern.
I will post some high res. pics shortly,
Thanks Brad

Drew Hause
08-24-2011, 07:00 PM
Could it be 'B.D.'? Bauduin Doyen was a Nessonvaux damascus barrel and gun maker. They were part of Syndicat des Fabricants de canons de fusils de la Vesdre in 1907. 'BD' is pretty common on Smith's "Good 2 Rod Damascus"

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/18490292/273607625.jpg

Brad Bachelder
08-24-2011, 07:45 PM
The stampings are quite sharp with no residual marks present. The forend lug is also stamped D 4. I have noticed that Bakers with English Twist are stamped with an L. Damascus such as found on the Paragons is stamped with a D.
This pattern has a repeat of two wide bands followed by a narrow band. The narrow bands are broken chainette. The wide bands form a flower like pattern, similar to a rose.
Perhaps it is Rose and Chain ? The second set of barrels are just as perfect.

Brad

charlie cleveland
08-25-2011, 10:30 PM
brad that is some fine looking barrels.... charlie

Brad Bachelder
08-30-2011, 04:24 PM
I was able to pull up some marks on the second set of barrels. Three letters possibly A.D.H. . Without full recovery I can't tell for sure. Hopefully these are close to a known makers marks.

Brad

Drew Hause
08-31-2011, 04:21 PM
Thanks Brad. It's Arthur-Delvaux-Heuse de Fraipont and I found a pic of the same pattern also on a Baker. Is it an A grade or Paragon?

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/18490292/377062944.jpg

Brad Bachelder
08-31-2011, 04:37 PM
Thank you Drew, mystery solved. I will note it in our pattern book.
I wonder how many others may exist ?

Brad

Drew Hause
08-31-2011, 05:23 PM
Found a Baker Gun Co. Batavia Leader with the usual chain pattern

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/18020839/396013829.jpg