to restore or not to restore

[krishamilton]

hello to all the fellow Parker Gun devotees.

i was listening to a radio program on the CBC yesterday morning about the Canadian government funding the restoration of the Bluenose II, or rather *secretive* demolition and rebuild of the ship. Im guessing the government didnt make the project public for the sake of the controversy it would bring.
Once the ship is finished it will look more like the original Bluenose 1 not the Bluenose II.. they said. They interviewed the editor from the magazine The Wooden Boat and his opinion of the project was that if even the rudder is salvaged and nothing else is original then it should still be called the Blusenose 1, 2, 3 or whatever and it still contains the spirit of the original ship.

While listening to this program i could not help but compare the discussions on whether to restore a Parker shotgun or not and its over all value.

I have a parker shotgun that not only needs a restoration but *mechanical repair.
Im thinking if im going to go ahead and fix the innards why not the outside as well.

i'll add a few pictures of my Parker

...its nothing fancy but suits my needs.

Top lever is broken, im going to spot weld and file that down to put the barrels back on-face, and im going to fit a new buttstock, something would fit the original. and i was thinking about re-bluing.

Since ive never completely disassembled a receiver is there an online guide. i have proper screwdrivers.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krischef/sets/72157625917024284/

thoughts??

[Jim Akins]

It appears to be a VH #2 frame, poorly restocked. Almost anything you do to it will help it, if you need a top lever, I probably have one, no charge. PM your address or email.

Jim A.

[Bill Murphy]

I'm missing that broken top lever in the pictures.

[krishamilton]

I meant to say top lever spring... I have one on order now

Jim A I appreciate the gesture, however not nessesary.

Right now I'm just looking for any advice, maybe something to not over look.
I've been readingthwse forums for some time and find them to be a wealth of knowledge

Cheers

[Jack Cronkhite]

Have a look HERE (http://books.google.ca/books?id=zRJm6uF7TSIC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=how+to+disassemble+parker+shotgun&source=bl&ots=T-DhgT4Bc_&sig=He_tPgqKs1-4EklSSm7BI3-hr2o&hl=en&ei=KEBCTZGFIcKqlAfOrclA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false)

pages 264 to 275 go through disassembly reassembly

Here's a couple more pics

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/cpg1410/albums/userpics/Parker002.jpg
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/cpg1410/albums/userpics/Parker001.jpg

I thought there was a FAQ about this but I can't find it.

When you remove the floor plate by tapping it lightly with a wood dowel or brass punch, do so over a towel and not from very high. Many a trip and trip spring has become subject of a frantic floor search unless care is taken. :eek:

[Robin Lewis]

Jack,

There was an FAQ that had an answer that pointed off to a google book, the same one that your "HERE" link points to. I removed it because the link no longer works. I tried your "HERE" link today and it fails too. Sorry about that but I have no control on the other guys links.

[Jack Cronkhite]

Have a look HERE (http://books.google.ca/books?id=zRJm6uF7TSIC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=how+to+disassemble+parker+shotgun&source=bl&ots=T-DhgT4Bc_&sig=He_tPgqKs1-4EklSSm7BI3-hr2o&hl=en&ei=KEBCTZGFIcKqlAfOrclA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Does the HERE link fail for everyone?? It does still open for me. Cyber space is such a fun place. :)
Cheers,
Jack

[Robin Lewis]

:throw:Now it works! I'll restore the FAQ, sorry about that.

[Jack Cronkhite]

I'm just relieved to know that there really was an FAQ that addressed this. Sometimes the memory link in the old brain fails or it recalls things that never were. :) A rotten affliction that. I'll be most annoyed when the day comes that I can't quite recall exactly where that great rooster habitat was and how to get there. It can happen. My good friend/hunting partner of many years had that happen when we were out a couple years back. He was genuinely surprised that, when I drove off in a direction that he was sure was quite wrong, we did end up at the right spot - confirmed by roosters in the bag.
Cheers,
Jack

[krishamilton]

thanks for the replies.

i was also wondering if the ejector was supposed to shoot the empty shells out of my parker. right now after i break the barrels open and reload the shells just get pushed out .. not thrown out... is this normal or is there a spring problem of some sort ??

[krishamilton]

also can someone clarify something on a picture i just noticed of the same model as mine

is there supposed to be a counter sunk screw on the stock above the trigger???

something i need to know when i fit a new butt stock to the rifle..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krischef/5398024359/

[krishamilton]

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=1492&aid=35167&lid=9572159#9

[John Dallas]

There are two different mechanisms for shell removal. The simpler, more common system (which your gun appears to have) are extractors. Look at the exploded diagram - the extractor is part #10. The more complicated system which pops out the spent shell, while only lifting out unfired shells is called an ejector system. In that case the extractor-type part is split, so that it can accomodate shells which have been fired, and those which have not

[Jack Cronkhite]

According to the SN shown, your gun is not an ejector model. It will have a one piece extractor, which will only lift the shell far enough for you to pull it out by hand.

The "counter sunk screw" you speak of on the side of the stock head is an oft' seen repair to hold a split stock head together. Not necessary for a new stock.

Here's some pics of an extractor

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=128&pictureid=1347http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=128&pictureid=1346http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=1394

Here's a damaged stock head that was held together with a wood screw. Is this what you were talking about with the "counter sunk screw"?

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=1364http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=1366http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=1367

[Robin Lewis]

Read FAQ #19, I think it will explain what you are asking. The FAQ page if found by following the FAQ link on the left side of the main page at www.parkerguns.org

[krishamilton]

Update time::

been working on making a new top lever spring here is a few pictures of the process

the broken spring is beside the new one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hesgonecountry/

[krishamilton]

time for an update

been working on cold bluing parts and barrel, made a top lever spring, and welded the latch on the barrel to make it solid and *on face*
now im waiting for a new forend and buttstock to arrive in the mail and i should be just about done.

also in the market for a new butt plate, any suggestions as to where a good online supplier would be??

[krishamilton]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60133299@N07/

[krishamilton]

i just realized that i m missing the tinny screw that holds the trigger spring in place, does anyone know where i can find such a screw? maybe something a watch maker might have laying around

[Bill Murphy]

What make of trigger does your gun have? If you don't know, post a closeup picture of the trigger from each side and we'll try to tell you what you have.

[krishamilton]

Ah I do have the screw my bad.... Whatido really need help with can someone please tell me where the cocking hook pin and spring fits into?

[krishamilton]

Figured it all out myself... Thank you search engine, seems most of my quarels have been raised before.