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Bruce Day
12-09-2010, 10:07 PM
Before and after.

This is the chicken coop gun from Nebraska. The barrels actually had feathers in them when the gun was first brought in. The stock was taped and had a strap screwed in to keep the wrist together.

Superglue and hidden pins work wonders.

Jay Gardner
12-09-2010, 10:29 PM
Hey, it's nice to see the stock but how 'bout the rest of that little gun!

Bruce Day
12-09-2010, 10:45 PM
Shown at Pheasant Fest 2010 and will be 2011.

I don't have any more pictures of it, not mine, it's my buddy's. I did help find it though. It has a skeleton butt, intact barrels, lots had to be refinished but the frame still had good case colors under a solid bloom of orange rust. Took off all the rust with Hoppes and steel wool, barrels refinished by Buck Hamlin, extra strap removed , wood fixed and refinished by Trevallian.

Kinda hard to find these small bore hammer guns.

Sorry, I think I have the right pictures this time.

Jay Gardner
12-09-2010, 11:25 PM
:envy: Sorry I ask.

Jack Cronkhite
12-10-2010, 01:47 AM
What is the circle in the middle of the rib on the last photo? I haven't seen that before.
Jack

Mark Landskov
12-10-2010, 06:10 AM
Awesome...and a 20 bore!

Jay Gardner
12-10-2010, 07:29 AM
What is the circle in the middle of the rib on the last photo? I haven't seen that before.
Jack

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's the top of the pin that holds the rib extension to the barrels. Take a close look at your Parkers - it's there. I have never seen a Parker that didn't have one but they usually blend in so well that they go un-noticed. The one on this gun probably shows up just because of wear.

Bob Jurewicz
12-10-2010, 08:00 PM
It seems to me that the pin becomes more prominent in appearance after a barrel refinish.
Bob Jurewicz

Brad Bachelder
12-14-2010, 08:43 AM
The prominence of the locator pin depends on the Rib material and the refinisher. The pin is carbon steel, the dollshead extension is either damascus or carbon steel. If you maximize the damascus pattern on the top of the rib, the pin will show as a dark circle. It is possible to hide it by finishing the top of the rib black, but it obscures the Damascus pattern. With carbon steel ribs the pin is not usually visible.

Brad

Jack Cronkhite
12-14-2010, 09:30 AM
Brad: I have admired images of barrels you have redone as well as some of the others often named here. The damascus patterns are beautiful. I wonder how they looked fresh from Meriden a century ago. Would the pattern have been as vibrant as we see can be accomplished or would it have been more subdued? Anybody out there with an original untouched barrel that has the prominent pattern? I have become a damascus fan after getting past the fear of sudden death to the shooter of same. They add a further dimension to the beauty of the early gun makers artistry.
Cheers,
Jack

Bill Murphy
12-14-2010, 09:47 AM
Many Parkers in average to above average condition show absolutely untouched original Damascus and Twist colors under the forearm. There were several untouched composite barrel Parkers on display at the PGCA Annual Meeting showing what they probably looked like when they were new.

Dean Romig
12-14-2010, 09:58 AM
I've seen a number of stock repairs David has done and not one of them show any sign of ever having been broken. He is a gifted artist having apprenticed and worked at Purdy for a few decades before coming here. That is a beautiful little "Chicken Coop Gun". Aside from being a rare Parker in and of itself one of the features that really makes the eyes pop is the silver crescent in the ball grip. Please tell your buddy it's a lovely gun.

Bruce Day
12-14-2010, 04:53 PM
Brad: I have admired images of barrels you have redone as well as some of the others often named here. The damascus patterns are beautiful. I wonder how they looked fresh from Meriden a century ago. Would the pattern have been as vibrant as we see can be accomplished or would it have been more subdued? Anybody out there with an original untouched barrel that has the prominent pattern? I have become a damascus fan after getting past the fear of sudden death to the shooter of same. They add a further dimension to the beauty of the early gun makers artistry.
Cheers,
Jack


Here you go.
Respectively 100 and 106 years of original, cared for and unmangled barrels. Two C's.

Bruce Day
12-14-2010, 04:57 PM
And one improved, touched and mangled.

Jack Cronkhite
12-14-2010, 07:16 PM
Bruce: Absolutely beautiful from the outset. Very nice. Is the touched/mangled version also damascus? If so, was it sanded/buffed and then blued? Was the rib off and relaid but not well done or is that a lighting effect? What else can you say about the touched/mangled barrels. Thanks for posting these images.
Cheers,
Jack

Bruce Day
12-14-2010, 08:20 PM
Damascus barrels that were started to be refinished and the process stopped because the foil thin barrels were blistering by the rib. Has Teague liners.
The silvery barrel is what damascus looks like before differential rusting.

There is no misleading lighting effect or optical illusion here. You are seeing what it is.

Bruce Day
12-02-2013, 09:23 AM
I am bringing this to the top in the interest of Parker gun collecting and to illustrate what can be done with a broken stock.

Brian Dudley
12-02-2013, 11:41 AM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's the top of the pin that holds the rib extension to the barrels. Take a close look at your Parkers - it's there. I have never seen a Parker that didn't have one but they usually blend in so well that they go un-noticed. The one on this gun probably shows up just because of wear.

That "pin" is actually a machine screw with a stepped head. It threads into the area where the breech is silver soldered together.

The screw's head would have been left very high with the slot completely above the level of the rib. Then it would have been dressed down flush with the rib when finishing.

Bill Murphy
12-02-2013, 04:18 PM
Bruce, in what part of the finishing procedure did the rippling of the tube present itself? What caused the rippling to appear?

Bruce Day
12-02-2013, 04:34 PM
Internally lined barrels have the thin, original outer barrel remaining. If too thin, such as the thickness of stationery paper, blisters can form just from light carding as in refinishing barrels.

The liner was not rippled. To the extent that hoop strength is derived from the combination of the liner and remaining original barrel, strength could be adversely affected by a too thin outer shell.

Many people were pleased by their Teague liners. This one was unusual and Teague made good on it, though I don't know the details. Teague no longer has a US representative and I have heard nothing recently about Teague barrel liners.

As always, and this is directed to those relatively new to old guns, when a person is interested in an older gun, barrels must be carefully considered. We frequently see on this website the results of uninformed, misinformed or careless purchases.

Bill Murphy
12-02-2013, 04:54 PM
Thanks for the information, Bruce. The latest news I have is that Teague is no longer lining barrels.