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Bill Anderson
10-11-2010, 02:55 PM
I don't recall ever seeing a Parker Reproduction on a true auction before, at least not on Gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=193758612

Dave Miles
10-11-2010, 03:45 PM
They're listed on Gunbroker all the time.

Bill Anderson
10-11-2010, 08:53 PM
They're listed on Gunbroker all the time.

No, I mean "true auction" not with a reserve or high starting price. This is the first I've seen.

Bill

Mike Shepherd
10-11-2010, 09:23 PM
I wonder what he means by this:

"I have repeatly read on shotgun forums that if someone runs a penny auction that the sale results will turn out fantastic compared to a reserve or fixed price auction. To this I show "hogwash"!, especially since I had to buy it, but I'll wait and see. I have not fired this shotgun."

Best,

Mike

Bobby Cash
10-11-2010, 10:05 PM
I wonder why if you have this type of intellegent discussion on the Fox Collectors website, they throw you through the plate glass window in their virtual lobby. Silvers/Fox Events?

Bill Murphy
10-12-2010, 08:06 AM
Mike, there have been internet forum discussions about the futility of selling guns at auctions with high reserves or high starting prices. Such auctions very rarely result in bidding. The seller on gunbroker is referring to the possible error he may have made in doing it the "right way". Gunbroker sellers are well known for high reserves, so buyers may not give this guy a fair price. There are a couple of sellers over on auctionarms who run all their auctions with no reserve and a penny to start with great success. A seller who calls himself "jackthedog" does it this way and seldom sells a gun at an unreasonably low price. The reason is that he has hundreds of people monitoring his auctions so they all get the attention all sellers would like their auctions to receive. This guy on gunbroker has a hard to find double trigger 28 gauge Repro so he may get a better price than he seems to predict.

Bill Murphy
10-12-2010, 08:18 AM
I just looked over on auctionarms.com at jackthedog's auctions. He has 43 items advertised, bids on every item except one that has a starting price above one cent. He has hundreds of bids with obviously hundreds of people monitoring his guns on a daily basis. He sells about everything he offers for sale on the first attempt, and occasionally lets something slip out for a little less than he would like. Some of these gunbroker sellers never sell anything at any price, ever.

Bob Jurewicz
10-17-2010, 08:34 AM
Someone got a REAL bargain on this one!
Bob Jurewicz

Greg Baehman
10-17-2010, 12:17 PM
Someone got a REAL bargain on this one!
Bob Jurewicz

I agree Bob. Will this soft market ever end? :banghead:

Jared Valeski
10-23-2010, 04:06 PM
Perhaps it was NOT a true auction after all.... Relisted after the sale on Guns International for slightly higher $. Another Gun Broker fake auction.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Parker-Reproduction-DHE-28Ga-Double-Triggers.cfm?gun_id=100152291

Kenny Graft
10-23-2010, 05:53 PM
He must have bid win amount himself...I checked his feedback, still O.K. nobody fussing yet....

Pat Dugan
10-24-2010, 08:43 PM
The man is not going to get negative feedback if he bought it himself under a FAKE NAME

PDD

Mike Shepherd
10-24-2010, 09:58 PM
Not unless the second bidder sees the gun for sale on the other site and realizes the seller was shilling.

Mike

Bill Murphy
10-25-2010, 04:45 PM
Apparently the guy was shilling. However, he was dealing with idiots and deserves one shill sale to defend himself from those idiots. I forgive him. I recommended the gun to several people. Never again.

Jared Valeski
10-25-2010, 07:51 PM
The shotgun is now back on GunBroker... Check it out.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=197319236

Bill Anderson
10-25-2010, 07:59 PM
Looks like some went off a little half-cocked on this one. Looks like the buyer was the bad guy. This usually happens when you ASSume something. I can imagine that no-pay bidders are a little more common, than they used to be.

Bill Anderson
10-25-2010, 08:03 PM
I love this guy's new listing with the line he added...."Check your bank account BEFORE bidding. If it is empty do not bid!"

Jared Valeski
10-25-2010, 08:12 PM
I wonder if someone would offer him the original no reserve auction hammer price ($4125) if he would accept it. My money would be on NO.

Mike Shepherd
10-25-2010, 09:39 PM
Looks like some went off a little half-cocked on this one. Looks like the buyer was the bad guy. This usually happens when you ASSume something. I can imagine that no-pay bidders are a little more common, than they used to be.

Guilty as charged!

Mike The ASSumer

Bobby Cash
10-25-2010, 11:35 PM
I was born at night...but not last night.
Is it just me or does this whole scenario seem a little contrived? Is there any way to see how long the broke buyers' account has been in effect. I'm guessing somewhere between the underbidders last bid and the broke bidders winning bid. Just my .02
:knowbetter:

Mike Shepherd
10-25-2010, 11:43 PM
I looked up the high bidder's feedback. He only has one: from Tommy Guns and here it is:

"User Feedback
Item Rating Comment From Buyer / Seller Date Actions

193758612
B The buyer contacted me right after the auction and said he couldn't pay for it. We came to an agreement, if he pays the auction fee. Select
Tommy Guns A+(332) Buyer 10/25/2010 3:05 PM "

Mike

David Holes
10-25-2010, 11:43 PM
check the buyers feedback on the original auction and things become clear

Bill Murphy
10-26-2010, 08:07 AM
I give up. What did the buyer say about the seller??

Bill Anderson
10-26-2010, 12:54 PM
[QUOTE=Bobby Cash;26504] Is there any way to see how long the broke buyers' account has been in effect.


Yes there is. Just click on buyer's feedback. This particular buyer registered on 8/7/2005.

Pat Dugan
10-26-2010, 01:16 PM
I bid on a set of Trojan barrels several weeks ago, the buyer registered in the last 15 minutes and begged out of the deal with the seller. Seller then contacted me and offered them to me at my 1st bid. This is what should have been done in this case. This kind of mess makes the real bidders BIDS valueless. It is an insult to their time and Gunbroker should not allow that gun back up for sale. Gunbroker for all practical purposes is now a potential trap for well intentioned buyers.

PDD

Bill Murphy
10-26-2010, 01:26 PM
Can I get an answer to my question? Thanks. I agree, the reserve function on gunbroker is ridiculous.

Bill Anderson
10-26-2010, 01:36 PM
I give up. What did the buyer say about the seller??

Good seller....was very understanding with my situation.

Bobby Cash
10-26-2010, 09:16 PM
Interesting criteria for return privileges, "Gross Misrepresentation".

Mark Ouellette
10-27-2010, 07:01 AM
Gentlemen,

I bought a nice Grade 3 two-barrel 10 bore from Tommygun this past year. I picked it up at his home and talked with him for quite a while.

Tom is a gun dealer and tries to make a profit on most sales. That stated, I would certainly buy from him again.

Mark

Bill Murphy
10-27-2010, 08:09 AM
Thanks for the reply, Bill Anderson.