Little Pet 410 ga. Double.

[Mike Stahle]

Very cool looking little double.
Anyone know anything about these?

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9948507&oh=216543

[Harry Collins]

If it is a .44 cal with 1 1/2" chambers I suppose you could make shells from a .45 Colt or .44 Rem Mag with about 1/3 oz of shot.

Harry

[Mark Landskov]

I was glad to see that the chambers weren't reamed out. I figured that it was for the original .410 x 2". The 44 XL may be the proper cartridge. A few American companies made shotguns for the XL. It is made from the 44 WCF case and uses a long paper shot container. All the major U.S. companies made cartridges for it. That sure is a sweet little SxS!

[Drew Hause]

This is Dave's image, but in case he's traveling

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/20091267/390651045.jpg

[Mike Stahle]

Interesting info; making 44-40 brass shotshells.

http://www.fourten.org.uk/mwpre410.html

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Mike: I have a neat little 410 hammer double that is in the process of repair. If interested i will take some pictures and post them. It is a acme arms manafacture.I was very excited when i saw your post because you very seldom see these. Thanks . Thomas L. Benson Sr.

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=1788
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=1787
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=1786
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=163&pictureid=1785

[Drew Hause]

Thomas: The H. & D. Folsom agent in Belgium, at least through 1914, was Louis Muller of Liege. Muller may have actually been in the employ of Folsom as he registered the Crescent trade marks in Belgium. He was also a gun maker and registered twelve trademarks 1889 to 1894 including:
Acme, Club, Climax, Star, Rival, Standard, Meteor, and I.X.L.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20m/a%20muller%20gb.htm

More here http://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1OxZo5Tkvx2G8eYf747QR9B5RJdN6Siu5JGIhfguSXX Q

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Drew: WOW that was the best info i have seen on this little gun. Thanks so much. I'm so glad that i joined this forum because of the very knowledgeable members like yourself. Thanks again you made my day. Thomas L. Benson Sr.

[charlie cleveland]

those sure are good looking little guns..i also have one of the little 410s hammer guns.. mine must have been made for a small child...smallest 410 i ever seen..about 3 1/2 lbs and18 inch barrels 2 1/2 inch chambers...made by the american gun company new york... charlie

[Thomas L. Benson Sr.]

Carlie: I would love to see some photo's of your 410 double if possible. Thomas L. Benson Sr.

[charlie cleveland]

thomas ive been meaning too learn how to post picture...if i can get my wife away from her girl scout projects maybe i can get her to post a picture of the little 410...i got it out and looked at it last night some one has redone the little gun was a amerture job but it looks ok for me... wish the parker brothers had made one of these little fellas.....charlie

[Richard Flanders]

Sounds like the same as they used to do with the Marbles Gamegetters. We had one that was a .22/44-40/.410 O/U. It had a pistol grip with folding wire stock; I'm sure some on the forum are very familiar with them. I shot .410's out of it as a kid; it was the very first gun I ever shot actually and I bet I could today walk to the very tree I perforated that day. I still have some of the .44-40 GG(gamegetter) round-ball cartridges that we had for it. Seems they'd be an interesting cartridge to a collector. They were obviously made just for the gamegetter.

[charlie cleveland]

what happened to the little 22- 44-40 -410 richard....that would be a truly intersting gun... bet shes getting cold up there in alaska...bout 80 here today in ole miss. charlie

[Mark Landskov]

I have seen only one Game Getter. They came in a few different configurations. Depending on barrel lengths, they fall under a set of BATF guidelines for short barreled rifles and shotguns. Kind of a shame when you stop and wonder how many Game Getters were actually used in the commission of a crime!

[charlie cleveland]

working on those picturesof 410 have tried to post them but no luck yet.. some body may have to help explain..... charlie

[charlie cleveland]

have tried to post pictures of the 410 again but with no luck...may have to send them to somebody and let them post it... charlie

[Robin Lewis]

Charlie, check you private messages.

[Mark Landskov]

Here's another 44XL.

[Chuck Heald]

Neat little guns. I'm becoming a real .410 addict. I've hunted nothing but my .410's this season for quail and the openner in SoDak, I used a M42 .410 for pheasant to great success. The only occasion I've used a larger gauge this year was day 2 and 3 in SoDak when I used a 20g.

Here's one of mine that is a favorite. I've thought of selling it to fund other .410's, but I'm still on the fence.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/roaniecowpony/410.jpg

[Dean Romig]

Is that an Ithaca?

[Chuck Heald]

Nitro Special.

[Mark Landskov]

Here is the XL cartridge. It is from the link posted on the 1st page.

[richard lambert]

That sure looks like a snipe on the thumb lever!

[Chuck Heald]

:rotf::rotf:My friends tell me it's a humming bird.

[Mark Landskov]

In reference to the earlier postings, here is a nice Game Getter restored (or newly made?) by Turnbull.

[Richard Flanders]

Nice pic Mark. We had the scabbard for ours. Wish I still had it. My grandfather had a family from a previous wife.... one of them 'borrowed' it at some point and of course we never saw it again. Hmmm, perhaps that family member is also some distant relative of J Dunkle, eh??? :rolleyes: I sure would cherish it now, regardless of the ridiculous BATF rules. How absurd is that, eh? Can't imagine what some of those monkeys are smoking to dream up such regs on guns like that.

[Dave Purnell]

This one is not as small and lightweight. But, it is a .410 double hammer by Crescent Firearms Co. It's the closest I'll ever come to owning a .410 double.
Anyone know anything about these?

Dave

[Drew Hause]

Here you go Dave
http://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1OxZo5Tkvx2G8eYf747QR9B5RJdN6Siu5JGIhfguSXX Q

[Dave Purnell]

WOW! Drew, you never cease to amaze me. Thank you.

Dave

[Destry L. Hoffard]

Charlie,

Just email the pics to me, I'm happy to post them for you.


Destry

[Brad Bachelder]

I realize that these are not economically correct for restoration, but I get a really good discount at the shop and it was just laying around. So i went and did it. It was originally chambered in 44 Xl, 425 bore. I punched it out to 2 1/2 .410. It has chokes to .415. Just fun to shoot and light. Notice the barrels say Laminate steel, they are not, they are fluid steel and Brazed.

Brad

[Mike Stahle]

Just seems to me they would make for a slick little tree-rat gun :cool:

[charlie cleveland]

I finally have learned how to post my pictures...Charlie

[Mike Stahle]

This sure turned into a long-lived thread…
I feel I really need to own one of these neat little buggers :)

[Dean Romig]

Congratulations Charlie!! I'm looking forward to lots more of your pictures.

[charlie cleveland]

ive got to learn how to down size pictures....my daughter helped me post these pictures...ive got the info wrote down...quick as i can learn how to change size of picture swere off and running...my little 410 aint much to look at but heh it is what it is.... charlie

[Robin Lewis]

Try watching this, I hope you can view it on your computer? It is a short video on how to resize pictures to upload onto this forum.

http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/DemoMovie/PlayResizePictureVedio.html

Depending on your internet connection speed, it could take a moment or a min. to open so give it a little extra time.

[Destry L. Hoffard]

Hey good work Charlie.

DLH