Help with identification of a double

[Charles Padula]

I am looking for assistance in identifing a double which I inherited. It is a .410, which is missing its side plates, and the only identification on it at all is Ithaca on the recoil pad. Where do I begin to, one, identify this shotgun and two, get it repaired if possible? Anybody have any ideas?

[Phillip Carr]

Start with posting some pictures. If the side plates are missing it is not a Parker. Someone will help you once the pictures are posted. Take clear pictures of the gun, the barrels and markings, as well as the water table , and the frame.

[Francis Morin]

Ithacas, like Parkers, were boxlock design- in the hammerless series-- a bit of a misnomer, as all firearm have hammers, but a "hammerless" means the hammers are inside the receiver.

The Ithaca red recoil pad is NOT a 100% clue- as I have seen several non-Ithaca shotguns wearing a Ithaca red sunburst recoil pad.

Brother Carr is 100% correct- if you can post pictures and list all numbers and letters from the receiver and barrel flats, etc- maybe we can be of more help in I.D. ing your .410 double :bigbye:

[Charles Padula]

I will post photos today thank you for your assistance

[Drew Hause]

Does what's left of the gun look something like this? Courtesy of Dave Noreen

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/20091267/355988076.jpg

[Charles Padula]

I hope that the photos which I have posted will be of some assistance to you, thank you again
CP

[Drew Hause]

It is indeed a No. 66 Quail Model Crescent. More information here http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20091267

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/20091267/330424513.jpg

The only option for replacement sidelocks is to purchase a 'parts gun' on one of the auction sites (possibly a receiver without barrels), but it will be quite difficult to find a .410

[Charles Padula]

Thank you very much, I inherited this double from my uncle, he had come down with alzehimers and dis assembeled it, who knows what he did with the parts. But thank you very much for your assistance.
CP

[Bill Murphy]

Keep looking.

[Jack Cronkhite]

Charles: Sorry to hear about your uncle. Agree with Bill. We have been through dealing with Alzheimer's progression over a 15 year span, which ended in June this year. One habit for some is hoarding and hiding. If you have access and can do a search, be very methodical about going through the house and outbuildings. The strangest things can be found in very unlikely places. There may be a good chance of finding the parts.

Good luck
Jack

[Mike Wilkerson]

Holy Toledo. Drew that's almost uncanny how you do that.:bowdown:

Mike

[Francis Morin]

Not an easy thing to cope with I am sure. The gun is most likely, as Dr. Drew stated, a Crescent Arms .410 quail gun- parts? Hard to say. The Ithaca black buttplate looks like a replacement, also note the wood screw at the top (heel) is a straight shank, whereas the wood screw at the bottom (toe) is a Phillips head--

I love history, trivia and playing amateur detective- I helped a widow find various barrels etc. for her late husband's collection of Savage 99 lever rifles- he was also a hunting companion and had two LC Smiths, both field grades, a 20 and a 12- knowing a bit about your uncle's occupation and work habits might be a clue in the search for the missing parts.

Back when I was heavy into split cane fly rods, a good friend who was a residential township building inspector found several rod cases in older homes, stuffed in the bracing of the floor joists in the basement- most of the rods I bought that way were Montagues and South Bends (trading stock) but one was a Heddon 35 in near Mint shape- and the quest goes on.

Having the parts made you need to make this .410 double functional again would be cost prohibitive, as I am sure you realize. If older guns could indeed talk, what fascinating stories they would tell.:bigbye:

[Drew Hause]

Thank you Mike, but I caught it from Noreen, and save all the hard stuff for him.