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AL DEMARCO
06-30-2009, 09:28 PM
HI,
WHEN WERE THE SINGLE BARREL TRAP GUNS MADE?
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT GRADE YOUR GUN IS ?
MY SER. NUMBER IS 177512
JUST JOINED SITE AND ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT-THANKS
Bill Murphy
06-30-2009, 09:39 PM
Your gun is one of the first made in 1917. They were made until the end of Parker-Remington production in about 1942. The grade should be stamped on the action flat visible when the barrel is removed. It may say 4 or C if it is a C Grade. 5 is B Grade, 6 is A Grade, 7 is AA Grade.
Dave Suponski
06-30-2009, 09:42 PM
177318 is listed as the first single trap gun made in 1917. Please reregister with your real name.
AL DEMARCO
06-30-2009, 09:50 PM
ARE YOU GUYS TELLING ME I HAVE THE FIRST ONE MADE?
Dave Suponski
06-30-2009, 10:06 PM
No...177318 is the first one recorded.
AL DEMARCO
06-30-2009, 10:12 PM
HOW DO I USE REAL NAME?
Dave Suponski
06-30-2009, 10:18 PM
Actually I just checked the "Serialization Book and 158108 is the earliest listed SC grade gun. The number 177318 I pulled from "The Parker Story" my mistake.:bowdown:
John Dunkle
06-30-2009, 10:44 PM
HOW DO I USE REAL NAME?Either post it in your next post - or private message me, and I'll get your login/screen name set.

Best to you,

John
Bill Murphy
07-01-2009, 07:19 AM
The lowest number singles that seem to be production guns are listed in the Serialization Book in the low 176,000 range. I don't know how the compilers of the information in the book came up with numbers in that serial number range since the pertinent stock books seem to be among the missing.
Danny McHugh
07-01-2009, 07:39 AM
Didn't the older ones have a outside access to the firing pin?
AL DEMARCO
07-01-2009, 08:07 AM
I LOOKED ON THE RECIVER FOR THE GRADE WITH THE GUN APART AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS WHAT GRADE IT IS-ONE SIDE IS SER. NUM. AND THE OTHER SAYS PARKER BROS. ECT AND THE PAT. DATES AND NUMBERS-IS THERE ANOTHER PLACE TO LOOK?
Don Kaas
07-01-2009, 08:30 AM
Look on the leftside of the "watertable"- the flat portion of the action visible when the barrel is removed.
Bill Murphy
07-01-2009, 08:59 AM
If the grade is not stamped on the water table, you could post pictures of the gun and we would tell you what your grade is. The "book" says your gun is a 34" barrel gun. The barrel is likely to be Titanic Steel, identified by a T on the bottom of the barrel flat. It is also likely to be a C Grade.
Don Kaas
07-01-2009, 09:32 AM
It's likely to be Acme steel on an SC...
Bill Murphy
07-01-2009, 09:38 AM
SCs in the serial number range mentioned that I have examined, including my own, are Titanic Steel. I don't know whether Acme Steel was used on early guns, but I haven't seen one.
Don Kaas
07-01-2009, 10:01 AM
You are probably right Bill, one of the 5 SCs I've had was an early one with the access screw and it had 34" Acme barrels...
Dave Suponski
07-01-2009, 12:06 PM
Bill and Don ....My first SC serial 180115 was a 32" straight grip gun with the access hole. It had Titanic barrels.

Also I checked the Serialization book last night and there were guns listed in the the 158,s. Does this make any sense? Seems way early to me too.
AL DEMARCO
07-01-2009, 03:33 PM
THIS GUN IS NOT ACME STEEL-AT LEAST NOT MARKED-I DID SOME GUNBROKER ADDS THE OTHER DAY AND MY WIFE MOVED DIG. CAMRA AS SOON AS I FIND I WILL POST PICTURES-BARREL HAS MATCHING SER. NUMBER AND THE FOLLOWING STAMPINGS-IF BARREL IS UP SIDE DOWN AND POINTED LEFT ABOVE THE PEICE THAT CONNECTS IT WITH THE RECIVER IS A G IN A CIRCLE-ON THE PEICE THAT CONNECTS IT TO RECIVER IS A SMALL K NEXT TO IT A BIGGER SINGLE STAR-THE NUMBER 12 ON THE RIGHT OF THIS PART-ON THE BOTTOM IT HAS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT-T HT ABOVE THE POINT OF AN A THEN A 3 WITH A 7 HALF WAY ABOVE AND TO THE RIGHT. THE FOREND LUG WELDED TO THE BARREL HAS AN X ON IT.THE TOP OF BARREL HAS THE PARKER BROTHERS LOGO ON REAR CENTER OF RIB-BY THE WAY WHAT IS THE WATER TABLE?