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Jesse Williams
11-04-2016, 04:20 PM
Hello all. I've been a member for a bit but have never posted anything before. I have a sbt I need some help with. I figured I'd try to get some input from you all.
The serial number on the water table is 176585, so I assume it's made in 1918. What confuses me is the fact that there is no grade mark on the water table. On the barrel flats there is an NT a 3 and A1. The wood is exquisitely checkered and engraved. It is a straight stock. Under the receiver there is what I assume is a gold pigeon with wings outstretched. I can't figure out how to post the picture on here. I could text them or email them to someone that does know how to put them on here though. I love fine shotguns, but i like knowing a bit about what i have as well. Any help is appreciated.

Chuck Bishop
11-04-2016, 05:36 PM
You can send the pictures to me @ pgcaresearch@verizon.net. You should see a 4 under the S/N if it has a pigeon in flight on the floor plate. It would be a SC graDE (4).

Jesse Williams
11-04-2016, 05:44 PM
There are no other numbers or letters around the serial number. I will send pictures to you now. If you don't mind, could you put them on this thread? Thanks!

Chuck Bishop
11-04-2016, 07:06 PM
Here are the pictures Jesse sent me to post. I've replied to him on e-mail. Jesse can give you the particulars on this gun.

Dean Romig
11-04-2016, 09:30 PM
It appears to be a typical SC with what appear to be aftermarket embellishments to boylth the wood as well as to the frame.





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Steve McCarty
11-05-2016, 12:51 PM
I own 177853. It's an SC, straight stock Titanic barrel. As the early engraving and the screw that opens to expose the firing pin.

Jesse Williams
11-07-2016, 10:03 AM
Thanks guys! The embellishments were done by Walter Kolouch.