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Wayne Owens
06-12-2010, 05:10 PM
Thought you might be interested in seeing a size comparison between a 7 frame 8 gauge and a 0 frame 20 gauge hammer gun.

Eric Eis
06-12-2010, 05:30 PM
Very pretty little 20 ga....Very nice

Jeff Kuss
06-12-2010, 06:01 PM
Wayne,
You just stopped the hearts of several forum members!
Jeff

Larry Frey
06-12-2010, 09:03 PM
Wayne,
Is that 20 gage a grade three? What a beautifull little hammer gun.:bowdown:

Wayne Owens
06-12-2010, 09:22 PM
Thanks Larry. Actually it is a grade 4 with Titanic steel barrels. It has been in my family for 70 years and is the reason I have been collecting Parkers for 25.

Austin W Hogan
06-12-2010, 09:36 PM
I think I remember you bringing the twenty hammer to Las Vegas ten or so years ago; it is probably one of the best of all Parkers

Best, Austin

Harry Collins
06-12-2010, 10:43 PM
WOW......both Parkers......WOW.....

calvin humburg
06-13-2010, 12:01 AM
I'd like to see a picture of the top of the 8's barrels how is the rib finished. Very nice guns!!! ch

Dean Romig
06-13-2010, 12:30 AM
Wayne, thank you for the pictures of your Parkers. I respect the big bores and am impressed with the 8 gauge but your C top-lever hammer gun takes my breath away. I wish someday that I may hold and admire that gun. Will you be at the Banquet in September? The theme is, after all, "Fish-tail Top-lever Guns". Hope to see you there.

Wayne Owens
06-13-2010, 12:32 AM
Calvin,
Here is the pic of the barrels on the 8 ga. Hope it is what you were after.

Jeff Kuss
06-13-2010, 08:20 AM
Wayne,
Now that Austin has jogged my memory, I remember looking at your wonderful 20 ga in Las Vegas several years ago.
Jeff

calvin humburg
06-13-2010, 08:24 AM
Thanks so much Wayne really nice. What is the barrel lenght on the 8? I don't know I think I lean toward the 8. Theres something about big things that come in pairs:eek: Thanks for the picture Good Day 2 u ch

Rich Anderson
06-13-2010, 08:37 AM
Wayne what year was the C 20 produced? I'm curious to the Titanic fluid steel barrels being original to the gun or did it originally have damascuss (those are unsafe you know:rolleyes:) which were replaced by the factory.

Either way a wonderfull pair of Parkers. The little 20 hammer gun is only the second 20 I have seen pictures of.

Wayne Owens
06-13-2010, 10:49 AM
Thanks Calvin. The length of the 8 gauge barrels is 34". I have always yearned for an 8 and watching the movie Appalossa finally put me over the edge. A letter on the gun should be in my mail box any day.

Wayne Owens
06-13-2010, 10:54 AM
Richard. The 20 gauge was manufactured in 1905. It came from the factory with Titanic steel barrels.

Wayne Owens
06-13-2010, 11:06 AM
Thank you Dean. I won't be attending the Banquet in September but will be in Vegas this January. Austin and Jeff are correct. I brought the 20 gauge to Vegas ten years ago when the PGCA had a booth. Let me know if you plan on attending.

Austin W Hogan
06-13-2010, 11:16 AM
Richard; TI4,TI5 and TI6 were the common fluid steel barrels for C,B,and A grade prior to around s/n 130000 when Acme became dominant.
There are few 20 ga exposed hammer guns but fewer appear in the record. Many exposed hammer guns are entered as hammerless; I have a 104000 lifter that is not identified as a lifter, and the big 32 inch hammer 12 that I brought to the "waterfowl' display at the annual meeting is stamped "PH" on the frame.

Best, Austin

Dean Romig
06-13-2010, 11:27 AM
Wayne, Thank you but, regrettably, I probably will not get to Las Vegas. If I ever get to Las Vegas it would be ONLY for the gun show and to meet friends, old and new. All else there leaves me cold.

Dean

Rich Anderson
06-13-2010, 03:14 PM
A 1905 production hammer gun has to be one of the last to leave Meridian. A very,very nice gun:)

Harry Collins
06-13-2010, 04:01 PM
Rich,

If you had come up for air long enough at the Southern five years ago you would have realised that the hammer gun I was shooting was a 20 gauge. Despite the fact that you harrased me at every station for shooting at the small bore peg. Mark Conrad had the most beautiful hammered 20 gauge Parker there that year. I still have dreams about it.

Harry

Here is the 0 framed 20 along side the 4 framed 10.

Rich Anderson
06-13-2010, 11:58 PM
I didn't give much thought to hammerguns then and don't recall what you shot just that you shot well. Wasn't that the year you won an event?

I do remember Marks gun however. A grade 3 12 with fluid steel barrels,
tightly choked. I believe Turnbull had done the metalwork.

Harry Collins
06-14-2010, 08:27 AM
Rich,

I did win that event with the 20 as well as the 10 gauge hammer gun challange and I was real proud of it until I realised that I was the only one shooting in those two compititions!

The Parker I saw of Marks was a 20 gauge hammergun with fluid steel barrels and I think it was a D grade. Wayne's little 20 makes my heart go pitty pat....

Harry

Rich Anderson
06-14-2010, 08:57 AM
I could be mistaken as to the guage but I do remember it was a nice hammergun. I have now heard of four 20ga hammer guns. I lucked out and adopted a 16ga lifter on the 0 frame last year but a 20 hammer gun would be nice.

With the resurgence in interest in the hammerguns I bet you wouldn't be the only entrant in those events again.

Bill Murphy
06-14-2010, 09:28 AM
Rich, the 1905 hammer gun may well have been one of the last, but my little 0 frame 16 is "The Last" smallbore hammer gun to come out of Meriden, in 1917. It is serial number 172,662. Great gun you have, Wayne.

Mark Landskov
06-26-2010, 07:14 PM
Puglisi's, our local emporium, has a ton of Parkers, including quite a few 8 bores. That is quite the difference in size from your 20!

Austin W Hogan
06-26-2010, 10:12 PM
Bill; Please send a discription of that gun to Josh; I think the latest exposed hammer we have is in the 159000 serial range.

Best, Austin

Bill Murphy
06-27-2010, 11:45 AM
This "last graded hammer gun", "last 16 gauge hammer gun" and "last production hammer gun" was on display at the PGCA annual meeting when we had the 16 gauge theme display. This was 2008 or 2009. #172,662 is a very nice straight grip gun originally built with 27" Damascus barrels. I'm sure Josh will monitor this thread.

Josh Loewensteiner
06-27-2010, 10:35 PM
Hi Guys,

I'll get the number posted. Thanks for sharing and bringing the 16ga gun that slipped past our radar in 2008 to our attention!

Keep 'em comin'.....