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Steve Kleist
04-07-2010, 09:57 AM
From time to time I see Repro barrels listed as Q1/Q2. Where in the Cyl, SKT1, SKT2, IC,LM,M sequence do these Q1/Q2 chokes fall?
Thanks, Steve Kleist Ely, MN

Joe Bernfeld
04-07-2010, 10:05 AM
Steve, although there seems to have been a bit of variation in the actual constrictions, I'd say Q-1 is about skeet 1 and Q-2 would be about IC, or even a bit looser. In a letter I received from Jack Skeuse dated 3/6/1989, he listed the following constrictions:

Choke 12g 20g 28g
Q-1 .003 .003 .003
Q-2 .006 .006 .005

Joe

Steve Kleist
04-07-2010, 10:13 AM
Thanks Joe,
This sounds like a much better alternative than cutting 4 inches off of a choked barrel set, huh?
SK

Chuck Heald
04-08-2010, 11:23 AM
Sounds like a marketing name for Lt Skt/Skt. Didn't Winchester use the same nomenclature on their 101 and 23 "quail guns"?

Jay Gardner
04-08-2010, 12:49 PM
Q1 & Q2 are extrenely effective on the skeet field and are hell on grouse and woodcock during the early part of the season. I have knocked down quite a few grouse with Q1 and all have been stone dead when they hit the ground.

Mark Ouellette
04-09-2010, 08:00 AM
Francis is correct.

Choke is measured by the percentage of shot inside a given circle at a given distance such as 50% of all shot hitting within a 30" circle at 40 yards.

What 99% of all shotgunners refer to as choke, i.e. skeet, is actually the physical constriction such as .005" that may likely cause the effect of a percentage of pattern listed for a skeet choke.

For those who are not shotgun crazy, as we are, the naming rather than numerical designations is easier to comprehend and remember.

Mark

Chuck Heald
04-10-2010, 09:13 AM
While the original technical, performance based, definition of a choke name: skeet, IC, mod, etc. may be pattern percentage, it has become a bit of an enigma in the days of mass produced guns and variety of available loads. The measurement definition is more practical to compare guns with, to produce guns, and to buy replaceable chokes. But it can't stand alone without some performance based definition either. So, we live with this debateable middle ground, the purist definition and the practical definition, and we debate it regularly.:banghead::rotf:

How about "Duck1" and "Duck2"? How would that differ from "Goose1" and "Goose2"?

Me? I want a "Limit1" and "Limit2" choked gun.

Dean Romig
04-10-2010, 01:23 PM
My sawed-off twelve gauge A1S home defense weapon is choked "Burglar-1" and "Burglar-2" :draw:

Dave Suponski
04-10-2010, 03:18 PM
:biglaugh:

E Robert Fabian
04-10-2010, 07:23 PM
Did you finally get that tactical sling mounted on that?

Richard Flanders
04-11-2010, 10:41 PM
I'll vouch for the effectiveness of the open chokes at long yardage. I knocked a couple of these ptarmigan down with my 28ga Sk1 bbl at about 40yds last weekend. Sure surprised me; can't speak for the bird...

Chuck Heald
04-13-2010, 02:15 PM
Is that a nose mitten on that Cub (or Super Cruiser?)?

Francis Morin
04-13-2010, 05:58 PM
I believe it is a "Cowling Cozie"--nice set of wings too!!:cool: