Parker SC Trap 242055

[Pat Dugan]

A friend was selling for his sister SC 242055. It was owned years ago by a former president of the PGCA. It was redone supposedly by the DelGrego
family in the 60s. To me it looks like a new gun, and yes I shot it at wobble trap range and got 21 on first round.

What do you thing is not correct about the gun. The pad is a Hawkins.

I was told it was made in 1941.

It has 32 inch barells with 2 ivory beads

[Pat Dugan]

Picture of bottom and other view

[George M. Purtill]

It looks like a typical DelGrego restoration on a gun that wouldn't seem to have needed a restoration.
It is very handsome, nonetheless.
My issues are the case colors, the shiny finish on the wood, etc. It looks too good.
But it seems to be in perfect condition. Like you said- a "new gun".

[Pat Dugan]

The pictures are off because I wiped it down with Ballistol...it does have a satin finish. It is a mystery as to whey it was " Resored"

[Pat Dugan]

The pictures are off because I wiped it down with Ballistol...it does have a satin finish. It is a mystery as to whey it was " Resored"
There are florescent lights in my office and no light outside and that makes some glare

[Jeff Christie]

It is a beauty. SC SBT s are a classic example of form following function. Altered or untouched they remain beautiful.

[Steve Cambria]

What a LOOKER! That must raise a few heads out at the 16 yard line? Put a thousand rounds through her and that "new car smell" will be a distant memory!! Yup, 2015 will be the year of the SBT. :corn: Good shooting.

[Brian Dudley]

Case colors redone obviously. A stock refinish is a given, but my opinion is that the stock is also a new one likely made by Delgrego when the gun was restored. Some things about the shape of it in spots and also the piece of wood used suggest a restock.

[Dave Noreen]

Just for reference from 1939 --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/ParkerTrapGuns1939.jpg

[Pat Dugan]

The pad on the qun is different than the ad, it is a Hawkins with the heart shapes, I have seen some guns with the DelGrego family
name on them.

I bet if CSMC made one today with real engraving and wood like their Remington
Parker 28 gauge it would cost $ 20 to 30 thousand.

Thanks for all comments

[Dave Noreen]

That is a Jostam Hy-Gun on the gun pictured in the 1939 catalogue. The Remington Model 31TC and 32TC are shown in the same catalogue with the Hawkins pad, and the Parker double trap has a Silvers (or Silvers style) pad. So, I'd imagine that Remington would put whatever pad the customer requested on a Parker SBT. By the time of the gun in question, even a Fray-Mershon "whiteline" would be quite reasonable.

[Bill Murphy]

It is a little unlikely that a 242,000 range SC would need a full Del Grego restoration and restock. I am thinking that this gun was finished from parts by Del Grego, probably in the fifties or sixties. As such, it would be a real piece of Remington Parker history and no less collectable than an SC finished at the factory.

[Pat Dugan]

Thanks Bill, I never thought about that..maybe if Asa Kelley can ask John
Davis to take it to a Parker Function so
people with knowledge can look it over
Thanks

[Bill Murphy]

"Looking it over" will result in an opinion that it is probably a 70s Del Grego refinish and probably restock. Of course, a gun built from scratch at the Del Grego shop would look the same. Since Del Grego does not file their repairs by serial number, the mystery may go unsolved.

[Pat Dugan]

I am soon going to post pictures of the barell flats..the Remington manufacturing code is kk dating it May 1941. There are some other marks that I would Appreciate help with.

[Mike Franzen]

Original or redone the gun doesn't appear to have been used very much.

[WmRike]

George - how does one tell what kind of condition a gun was in prior to restoration? Just curious.

PPat - gorgeous looking gun. Looks like it's ready for business.

[greg conomos]

I don't know from whence the gun sprang, but there's no reason why the gun wouldn't have needed a restoration by DelGrego even in the 1960's. By then it was 15+ years old, minimum, and a lot can happen in that time to a gun that is in use. A restock? Maybe. Don't we always hear how trap shooters are the worst at modifying their stocks? Maybe the original was a mess by 1960.

An avid trapshooter, or even a careless user, could easily 'wear out' a gun in 15 years.

[Pat Dugan]

What does the mark that looks like a sun
mean , the rectangle with a line thru it , and
a heart and a little p next to the 5 mean?
The kk means may 1941
thanks for any help
also small w

Pat

[Dave Suponski]

Pat, The marks you describe are commonly found on late Remington/Parkers. We are not sure of the meaning. Inspectors marks I would assume.

[Dean Romig]

There are several stamps on guns made during the Remington ownership era that we do not know the meaning of. Those are among the stamps of unknown meaning.

[davidkerns]

1ST OF ALL THE GUN IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL , IT APPEARS JUST MADE AT THE FACTORY AND KEPT UNDER WRAPS SINCE NEW , YES MAYBE IT WAS RE-DONE , THIS DOESNT MAKE IT A BAD THING , I DONT FIND ANY NEGATIVE ASPECTS ABOUT THE GUN , ITS TO NICE TO THINK ANYTHING BUT POSITIVE! , IF THE GUN EVER BECOMES FOR SALE PLEASE LET ME HAVE 1ST REFUSAL.
SINCERELY DAVID KERNS #1691

[George M. Purtill]

Just for reference from 1939 --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Parker/ParkerTrapGuns1939.jpg

Dave- what is this 1939 catalog? Was it a specialty Trap gun catalog?
Thanks.
George

[todd allen]

George - how does one tell what kind of condition a gun was in prior to restoration? Just curious.

PPat - gorgeous looking gun. Looks like it's ready for business.

I wondered that myself. Beautiful gun, btw!

[George M. Purtill]

I wondered that myself. Beautiful gun, btw!

I assume you are referring to me- George Purtill.
Bill Murphy's post says what I meant. A gun with a serial number of 242055 would seen unlikely to be in such bad shape as to need a full restoration. Plus it is not a field gun that would be beat up. Trap guns are shot a lot but not usually abused. Most all of my guns in the 240,000 plus range are mint.

[Dave Noreen]

It is the 1939 Remington/DuPont Trap & Skeet Equipment Catalog.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Remington%20Pumps%20and%20Autoloaders/1939%20Trap%20amp%20Skeet%20Equipment_zps6zwyoujp. jpeg

[Dave Suponski]

I think I have that catalog in my files. Now I gotta check this evening

[George M. Purtill]

Thanks Dave Noreen.
Very nice. Now I need one for my reference collection.
This is the tail end on Remington's association/marketing of Parker guns. That is why 242055 is a gun that either would have been unmolested and not in need of restoration or very likely as Bill Murphy said, made from what was on hand at a later date.

[davidkerns]

Regardless of how the gun came into being , it is a Parker treasure to be sure! it doesn't have to be a AA grade gun to be beautiful , and the fact that it was at the end of an era when the last Parkers were made by Remington ,
makes the gun more intriguing.
Take good care of it , and enjoy it.
Dave Kerns PGCA member 1691.

[Dave Suponski]

Mr. Noreen, Thank you for reminding me of this great catalog. I found mine and it has the foldouts in the back for skeet and trap fields also.

[Dave Suponski]

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