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David Holes
12-13-2014, 11:27 PM
looking at 23,000 range lifter with L2 barrels. I see they used about 40-50 sets before they went to L1. Logic tells me they were using up a supply of higher quality laminated barrels on grade 2 guns. Any ideas? Dave

charlie cleveland
12-14-2014, 02:59 PM
buy it...charlie

Dean Romig
12-14-2014, 04:59 PM
Do you have pictures of the pattern and of the barrel flats?

Dean Romig
12-14-2014, 05:03 PM
Was it Gunbroker auction number 456807330 ?

Incidentally, L2 is the grade of the gun. Laminated Steel Grade 2 Parker.

Angel Cruz
12-14-2014, 09:16 PM
buy it...charlie

..:rotf:Charlie..you crack me up!! You like, don't think just buy it..:rotf:

David Holes
12-14-2014, 10:16 PM
That's it Dean, I opened up the parker story and found some info in grade 2. I'm wondering if that is a parker made laminate barrel. The bands around the barrel look to be 3 different pilings.

Dean Romig
12-14-2014, 11:33 PM
With the P stamped on the right barrel flat where the barrel steel type is located, there is speculation that these barrels were some of the very few that were manufactured by Parker Bros. and discussed by superintendent Charles A. King in his testimony that PB made barrels in 1877 and 1878.
I have one such gun which also has three distinctly different pilings as well as the P stamp and two other members have examples in their collections. I have asked for "Help" in Parker Pages below my editorial for the last three issues. Nobody has responded to date.

There is no proof of this actually being on of the barrels made by Parker Bros but everything points to that conclusion.

The first Parker I saw these barrels on was a graded 14 ga. lifter and the next one I saw with these barrels was a Grade C lifter. Mine is a Grade D lifter.

The one you reference is the first Grade 2 gun I have seen with these barrels.

I wonder who bought the gun in question....?

David Holes
12-15-2014, 09:40 AM
According to the serialization book, they were making these in groups of 5 and 10, so assuming they were all made the same there might be more survivors. I had the only bid.

David Holes
12-24-2014, 11:25 AM
Do any of you guys have a picture of these barrels in refinished condition or nice original condition? I also find it interesting that it has pheasants engraved on it with plenty of engraving for a grade 2, but with a solid steel butt plate.

Dean Romig
12-24-2014, 12:38 PM
I have pictures of my Laminated Steel barrels with the three distinct segments and the P stamp on the flat. Pics are in my other hard drive from my defunct computer and I will be working on accessing that hard drive in the next week.

Drew Hause
12-24-2014, 12:40 PM
An old thread re: Parker Laminated Steel
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?p=7342#post7342

Some examples here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17227428

David Holes
12-24-2014, 04:29 PM
Thanks Dean, I guess there aren't many out there for comparison. Looks like PB was using up their old stock prior to the check hook models coming out. Out with the old in with the new. Drew , thanks for the link but I can't find that style of Laminated in those pictures.

Drew Hause
12-24-2014, 06:47 PM
Look like this?

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19406549/403868671.jpg

Dean Romig
12-24-2014, 09:47 PM
Yes Drew - the top example is the one in reference. I think I know the gentleman who supplied that picture and he and I have discussed his two guns with that type of Laminated Steel barrels. Only one of his has the P stamp on the barrel flats where the stamp for the steel type is normally found. His also are constructed of three separate and distinct sections of tube in each barrel.