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Bill Holcombe
08-25-2014, 05:08 PM
I posted this in the general forum, but thought I would share the engraving on this forum as well. The D grade was made in 1899, and from what I have read in TPS, I am guessing the engraving would have been done by Gough. It has a setter on the floor plate and a pointer and setter on each of the side plates. They aren't the best representations of dogs I have seen on a parker, but they are far from the worst.

Bill Murphy
08-25-2014, 05:16 PM
What page reference in TPS can you give us to suggest a Gough connection?

Bill Holcombe
08-25-2014, 05:20 PM
Page 224, "dogs on D grade guns in the 1890s have a characteristic intense facial expression. Chances are that Harry Gough did them." This D grade was done in 1899 and the dogs have the same expression as other Ds I have seen from the 1890s, so I was taking what TPS said at face value.

Mills Morrison
08-26-2014, 10:01 AM
Very unusual and cool

Rick Losey
08-26-2014, 01:42 PM
those style dogs started with the first of the hammerless- this comes from an 1888 DH within a few hundred numbers of the first hammerless gun - it has the same setter/pointer mix on the side plates

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/setterw/floorplate.jpg

Bill Holcombe
08-26-2014, 01:44 PM
Very cool Rick, I think I saw you post that floor plate in a thread I found on here about 3 dog DHs, I find it interesting the variation in head position among the dogs found on floor plates. Your is looking at the ground and mine is looking more to the sky.

Rick Losey
08-26-2014, 01:59 PM
if you look very close - you'll see a bird's head in the grass he is looking at

Bill Holcombe
08-26-2014, 02:24 PM
Hmm I will have to check if there is some bird flying on mine. I don't think so, but will check.

Bob Hayes
08-26-2014, 07:22 PM
Just a question on this DH.What condition would you rate this engraving and case color?These look like good pictures of this gun.
Nice gun by the way.
Thanks

Bill Holcombe
08-26-2014, 08:05 PM
I really don't have a clue. Haven't been at this long. There really isn't any cc. In my inexperienced opinion I would rate the engraving pretty good except for the setter on the floor plate, it is a little faint.

Ralph English
08-27-2014, 03:43 PM
Bill - Your trigger plate vignette of a setter on point has a striking resemblance to the setter on point in Fig.8.4, page 225, TPS. This engraving was signed H Gough.
I think it is more than a "guess" that Harry Gough engraved your gun.
Thanks for sharing!

Russ Jackson
08-31-2014, 07:33 AM
Here is another ,what do you think , Gough Engraved ? This is from a DH 10 Ga.,Serial #58963 ,1889 !

Brian Dudley
09-08-2014, 10:44 PM
Gough at least may have engraved parts of your gun. Usually production guns had many hands in the engraving shop execute the work.

I saw a D grade recently that was a perfect example of this. The sides had scroll work that simply came to life and was far above any typical D grade gun. But the trigger plate was rather run of the mill in comparison.

Bill Holcombe
01-19-2016, 12:05 PM
I am in the process of acquiring a second 3 dog DH. This one is even older then the first. Will post pics as soon as I get it and my camera in the same room.

Mills Morrison
01-19-2016, 12:07 PM
Can't wait to see your new find, Bill

Bill Murphy
01-19-2016, 01:38 PM
No offense meant to anyone who refinishes Parkers, but the pictured guns are good examples of why we don't refinish the receivers on old Parkers.

Bill Holcombe
01-19-2016, 04:57 PM
No offense meant to anyone who refinishes Parkers, but the pictured guns are good examples of why we don't refinish the receivers on old Parkers.

Bill are you saying the guns pictured have been refinished or that they are examples of why you don't refinish because of their quality.

I suspect the one I posted to open this thread may have had some polishing or whatever done on the receiver, the engraving just isn't as sharp, but I am not certain of that. But that was fine for me as it was reflected in the price and is a great shooter for me.

Just curious as there are multiple guns posted and I am just curious what you were trying to say.

Bill Holcombe
01-19-2016, 05:57 PM
Here are the pics of the new 3 dogs. Will post pics of the whole gun in general forum.

Daniel G Rainey
03-25-2016, 04:33 PM
The pointer and setter on my DH made in 1902 have the same facial expressions, but mind has the four ducks on the floorplate. All but sure it was done by the same engraver.