Hello

[Michael Scorsone]

Hi. I am new to Parker Brothers guns, and today my wife's uncle gave me one. The fore grip is missing, but the gun seems strong. There is a little crack in the stock near the trigger guard. when I crack open the gun the serial numbers reads 69754 with the letter V. The barrels are 32 inches long. Oh and it is a Damascus no trigger. I would say the gun is 5-10% could someone help me identify what I have?

[Rick Losey]

serial number 69754 should be a basic grade hammerless 12 gauge with 32 inch plain twist barrels and a capped pistol grip stock. This is a fairly early hammerless gun.

when you say the fore grip is missing - just the wood? or the entire thing, metal and all?

there should be a number stamped on the under side of the barrel lug for the frame size

and is the floor/trigger plate missing?

please post some good clear pictures and we can help

[Michael Scorsone]

Only the wood is missing from the fore grip. The number is 69754 and there is a V for the letter. There is also a number 1 on the metal where the wood fore grip would go.

[Rick Losey]

Only the wood is missing from the fore grip. The number is 69754 and there is a V for the letter. There is also a number 1 on the metal where the wood fore grip would go.

yes - i had noticed my typo- the info was for the correct number - its the human that is at fault

the forend wood can be found or made- not a real big deal. How about the "no trigger" question

and what is the condition of the bores?

pictures of the gun, with close ups of markings and the areas of concern will really help.

[Michael Scorsone]

Trust me I appreciate all your help can not get pictures up yet. The gun is hammerless.

[Michael Scorsone]

The bores are not pitted inside a little dirty they are not rifled but have smooth lines. the serial numbers match the barrel and the trigger mechanism.

[Michael Scorsone]

The gun is also missing the plate on the butt

[Rick Losey]

reproduction butt plates are readily available

a Parker Brothers gun is a shotgun, so there should be no rifling

[Michael Scorsone]

I'msorry im meant to say the barrels are smooth inside and have the lines in between the barrels on the top of them. What do you think the cost would be, even if it was 5%?

[Bill Murphy]

$400. However, we are confused by the information that the serial number is accompanied by the letter "V". Can you explain exactly where the V is located if you can't post a picture?

[Michael Scorsone]

When I crack open the barrel over the trigger mechanism is the serial number and a 1/4 of an inch to the right is the V.

[Michael Scorsone]

where the serial number is on the barrel you can see that with no problem but if there is any other markings they are hard to see.

[Dave Suponski]

Michael, 69754 is too early in Parker production to be a V (Vulcan) grade gun. Are you sure the V isnt a P?

[Michael Scorsone]

there is a V. I did find a patent date on the right of the trigger mechanism it is April 20 1915.

[Rick Losey]

there is a V. I did find a patent date on the right of the trigger mechanism it is April 20 1915.

then something is not right here

a 1915 patent date should not be on a gun made in 1891

what part of the gun is the 69754 number on, and can you take the barrels off and let us know any other marks on the action and barrel flats

[Michael Scorsone]

69754 is on the action and the barrel. The action has the V and the patent date on it. The barrel has marks but I can not make them out.

[Rick Losey]

I think pictures are the only way we will be able to help

unless there is a faint 1 in front of the 69754 that would be a 1914 gun roughly

what is marked on the top of the barrel rib?

[Michael Scorsone]

There is a number 1 on the barrel where the wooden foregrip would attach.

[Rick Losey]

There is a number 1 on the barrel where the wooden foregrip would attach.

i assume that is on the lug on the underside of the barrels- that would be the frame size.

i think we need pictures when you can get them

[Russ Jackson]

Michael ,does your gun actually say Parker Brothers any where on the gun , it should be stamped so on each side of the receiver also on the top rib between the barrels ,is it possible it is not a Parker Brothers Gun but maybe a " Thomas Parker Double Gun or T. Parker or some such gun ? Not being smart but there are quite a few ""Parker ""guns out there that are not "Parker Brothers " guns ! Pictures are a must ! Best ; Russ