SA1

[Mike Franzen]

Of the four SA1's built do we know where they are and who owns them?

[Robin Lewis]

Well, two are pictured on the grades web page. That's half of them.

I have come close (twice) to getting a picture of the SAA; if anyone has access to a picture of it, I would love to add it to the grades web page.......

[GunnerGrilli]

What's the Grades Web Page??



Thanks,


Gunner Grilli

[Bill Murphy]

Singles are not usually identified by grade in the Serialization Book. In the post 1919 non order book era, does that mean that the singles are not identified by grade in the stock books? I haven't lettered any late singles, so this question is addressed to Chuck or someone who has lettered late (post 1919) singles.

[Joseph Sheerin]

What's the Grades Web Page??



Thanks,


Gunner Grilli

From the home page, there is a "Grades" link.....:bigbye:

[Chuck Bishop]

Bill, the stock book lists SBT's as,Trap 4, 5, 6,7, and 8. The IBM cards show them as SC, Etc.

[GunnerGrilli]

Chuck, as you know, I have recently acquired and SA1. Bill, the serial # is 194680, it is listed in the serialization book as an S8.

It is quite a work of art. Stunning and I am so thankful to have it.

I never thought I would have a chance to own one.



Gunner Grilli

[David Noble]

I, for one, would love to see pictures of your SA1.

[Reggie Bishop]

There is one coming to auction in February 2023.

[Bill Murphy]

Congratulation, Gunner. Is there any ownership information for your gun in the stock book?

[John Davis]

Gunner, your SA1 has no gold inlay, correct?

[GunnerGrilli]

Here are pics of the SA1.

[GunnerGrilli]

Thank you Bill. I do have a letter. I will review the letter and get it posed.


Thanks,

[John Davis]

Wow!!!! Bet I could break some targets with that beauty.

[Chuck Bishop]

Bill, you of all people should know that stock books don't show ownership🤣

[Bill Murphy]

Chuck, I thought for an SA1, they would include a full biography of the person ordering the gun. OK, Gunner, we're eagerly awaiting the letter.

[Dan Steingraber]

What a beautiful group of guns.

[Mike Franzen]

Funny how this thread lay dormant for nearly 10 years and suddenly comes back to life with that spectacular gun!

[Josh Loewensteiner]

Are photos of the SAA still in need? I sold one in the last 12-18mos.

[Bill Murphy]

Josh, we would love to hear more and see pictures.

[GunnerGrilli]

Bill,


Here is the research letter (attached). No owner information. In the stock Medallion I believe the initials are W.D.M.

If you recall a few years back this gun was mentioned on the forum, and it was thought that the initials were W.M.D. It is my belief that the M is superimposed slightly larger the other 2 initials. I believe the M. is the owner's last name.

It would be great to know who originally ordered this fine A1.


Thanks,


Bobby

[Phil Yearout]

Bobby, sure would like to see more pics, the entire stock, forend, etc. Thanks...

[GunnerGrilli]

Hi all,


Here are some additional pictures. Truly a piece of art.


Thanks,


Bobby

[Phil Yearout]

How 'bout a pic of the stock?

[GunnerGrilli]

Hi all, sorry been busy. Was able to sneak into the gun room yesterday and take some pics of the stock.........here she is!!

[GunnerGrilli]

What do y'all think of that leather bound pad on the back of the gun?? Do you think that is original?

I personally have never seen one like it. It sits slightly proud of the stock around the edge where it terminates to the wood.


Thanks,


Bobby

[Reggie Bishop]

It is very similar to the pad on one of 20 gauge guns. I have wondered about my pad as well.

[Steve Cambria]

[QUOTE=GunnerGrilli;373808]Bill,

Here is the research letter (attached). No owner information. In the stock Medallion I believe the initials are W.D.M.

If you recall a few years back this gun was mentioned on the forum, and it was thought that the initials were W.M.D. It is my belief that the M is superimposed slightly larger the other 2 initials. I believe the M. is the owner's last name. It would be great to know who originally ordered this fine A1.

You're getting warmer, but let the Fox man lead you Parker boys back to the campfire...:whistle:

111899

[GunnerGrilli]

Tool Man,


I am assuming that William D. Munshaw is related to Dr. Harvey B. Munshaw...........

So, I do know this. Dr. Harvey B. Munshaw and Dr. Fred J. Rinehart were business partners. I sent a private message last week to a gentleman on the forum that knew Dr. Munshaw, however I have not heard back from him.


Do you know the gun belonged to William D. Munshaw? Thanks so much for the info!!!


Bobby

[GunnerGrilli]

Oh, I guess I should have elaborated a bit further. My apologies........


This gun was originally purchased from the Estate of Dr. Fred J. Rinehart. I have been trying to contact his descendants to help elaborate a bit on the history of the gun, but have not been successful.


My estimation is that when Dr. Harvey B. Munshaw passed in 1989, the gun was bequeathed to Mr. Rinehart.


Bobby

[Bill Murphy]

Great searches for the gun in question.

[Brian Dudley]

That is a nice gun!

[Mike Franzen]

Are there any Parkers with documented leather covered butt pads?

[John Davis]

Are there any Parkers with documented leather covered butt pads?

Here you go.

[GunnerGrilli]

Thanks John!! That is awesome!!


Thanks,


Bobby

[David Noble]

Here you go.

John, is that a work order tag?

[Brian Dudley]

Keep in mind that leather faced silvers type pads were also very common. Leather FACED, not leather COVERED.

[CraigThompson]

Keep in mind that leather faced silvers type pads were also very common. Leather FACED, not leather COVERED.

Under normal use and conditions was it very likely they would last let’s say 85-100 years ?

[Reggie Bishop]

Under normal use and conditions was it very likely they would last let’s say 85-100 years ?

Depends I think on storage, maintenance and general overall use/abuse. I have owned several that I am convinced were the original factory installed pads.

[John Davis]

John, is that a work order tag?

Correct

[J. Scott Hanes]

Keep in mind that leather faced silvers type pads were also very common. Leather FACED, not leather COVERED.

Brian, would you say the same about a Hawkins pad on a Parker?

[Brian Dudley]

Brian, would you say the same about a Hawkins pad on a Parker?

I dont understand the question.

[Bill Murphy]

I have an early SC with a very professional leather covered, not faced, pad. The letter specifies a "deluxe pad". I think I have a factory leather covered pad.

[J. Scott Hanes]

Keep in mind that leather faced silvers type pads were also very common. Leather FACED, not leather COVERED.

Brian, have you also seen a Hawkins leather-faced pad on a Parker?

[Tom Kidd]

FYI! Lets not forget the Jostem Hy-Gun pads that were also used by Parker, and this one is not leather faced and on an original untouched BHE DBT. Serial 228351. The Jostem was/is also pictured in early Parker Literature/Catalogs.

All the Best to All during these Holiday Seasons, Tom

P.S.: Oh, an Absolutely Awesome A1-S

[Tom Kidd]

Good Morning Again,

I have been asked to post the passenger side of the stock on the BHE DBT, so here it is. As W.O. Odem used to say: 'Ther ain't no flies on tat summabitch'

Again, All the Best to Everyone during these Holiday Seasons. Tom

P.S.: Oh, Mr. Davis, yes this is the Parker I brought up to Housman's for you to shoot, but your preset shooting program/schedule caused you to miss out, but cheer up, you can get a chance next year if you like. It is one of my best shooting trap guns along with my M grade Single. I have a Fox Trapper DBT, that I don't do that well with, but also have an incredible original FE DBT that shoots as good as the BHE. Now, to find a SA1 to go along with my M grade! Ha, I haven't handled one for sale in 60yrs, so I doubt I will satisfy that itch at this late date; but 'hope springs eternal'. Sorry to steal the thread!! Now,no matter what I do I can't add any files??? I will try and add in another reply.

[Tom Kidd]

Here it is!!

[Reggie Bishop]

That BHE is wonderful!!

[CraigThompson]

AHFOXMAN , I’d love to see how your BHE fairs in the boxbird ring . I’ve never been a fan of a cheek piece on a shotgun but I imagine with a mounted gun it should be fine . Merry Christmas !

[GunnerGrilli]

That BHE is stunning.......................and Elmer Keith's Gun on top of that. Just WOW!!

Thank you so much for sharing. I know some Fast Draw guys that would love to own that gun!!!!!


Thanks,


Bobby

[John Davis]

P.S.: Oh, Mr. Davis, yes this is the Parker I brought up to Housman's for you to shoot, but your preset shooting program/schedule caused you to miss out, but cheer up, you can get a chance next year if you like.

I’m not worthy:bowdown:

[Tom Kidd]

I’m not worthy:bowdown:

Yeah, in a pig's ear!!!

Happy Holidays, see you in Spring, the Big Guy willing.

[Mike Koneski]

That is one heck of a beautiful gun you have there Tom! :clap:

[Randy Davis]

Oh, I guess I should have elaborated a bit further. My apologies........


This gun was originally purchased from the Estate of Dr. Fred J. Rinehart. I have been trying to contact his descendants to help elaborate a bit on the history of the gun, but have not been successful.


My estimation is that when Dr. Harvey B. Munshaw passed in 1989, the gun was bequeathed to Mr. Rinehart.


Bobby


Photo of Doc Munshaw 1975

Trap3

[Mike Franzen]

That’s a classy shooting jacket :shock:

[Bill Murphy]

A shooting buddy from my youth had a full size Ocelot skin complete with tail, sewed into the back of his shooting jacket. The tail almost dragged on the ground.

[Bill Murphy]

To continue, my friend obtained the ocelot skin from his sister who was an anthropologist employed by the National Geographic. At the time of the gift, the skin was legal to import. Unfortunately, my friend, well educated and very talented, died at 38 years old from cirrhosis of the liver. I don't know what ever happened to his elegant shooting coat.